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Hollrobb 04-09-2017 08:17 AM

No way in.
 
I was recently looking at an old dell laptop i got a few years back and noticed it had originally had windows 98 se installed. When i got it the hard drive was broken and after replacing the hard drive i installed windows XP only because i had a few install disc and several Product Key codes to use.
Well i was bored and last weekend and for a project i installed windows 98 se on that old laptop being that was the os the laptop originally came with according to the Product Key decal. Last fall i stopped at a yard sale when i seen what i thought was an old desktop pc that turned out to be an empty case. But i did spot a dell "Getting started Microsoft Windows 98,second edition" recovery/installation disc/booklet still in the plastic wrap for 2 dollars.
Well i put the disc in the old dell c600 latitude and followed the prompts all the way through and when all was done and restarted the view on the screen was less then half the size and after locating the drivers needed to fix not only the display but audio and Ethernet adapter as well. The problem i am in need of your help is,,, i can not figure a way to get the drivers on the system. The dvd drive does not work because no driver installed, the usb same thing and no Internet connection because of the same problem,No drivers installed.
So i came here to ask for help. Anyone have any information as to how i can get a driver file installed?
Thank you.

moefugger 04-09-2017 01:44 PM

Get to the point idiot.
Remove 99% of that babble.

zero-g 04-09-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollrobb (Post 2269415)
I was recently looking at an old dell laptop i got a few years back and noticed it had originally had windows 98 se installed. When i got it the hard drive was broken and after replacing the hard drive i installed windows XP only because i had a few install disc and several Product Key codes to use.
Well i was bored and last weekend and for a project i installed windows 98 se on that old laptop being that was the os the laptop originally came with according to the Product Key decal. Last fall i stopped at a yard sale when i seen what i thought was an old desktop pc that turned out to be an empty case. But i did spot a dell "Getting started Microsoft Windows 98,second edition" recovery/installation disc/booklet still in the plastic wrap for 2 dollars.
Well i put the disc in the old dell c600 latitude and followed the prompts all the way through and when all was done and restarted the view on the screen was less then half the size and after locating the drivers needed to fix not only the display but audio and Ethernet adapter as well. The problem i am in need of your help is,,, i can not figure a way to get the drivers on the system. The dvd drive does not work because no driver installed, the usb same thing and no Internet connection because of the same problem,No drivers installed.
So i came here to ask for help. Anyone have any information as to how i can get a driver file installed?
Thank you.

Just got up, and haven't had to work on anything that old in a while lol.

Have you tried going into the system bios and enabling usb or disc?
I think if you enable that service in bios you "should" be good to go. Then just use another pc to get your network card drivers , install them, and if you can get on the internet, go straight to dell and use their system to "inspect" your terminal for missing drivers etc.

* and you might wanna make sure your network card atleast supports 10/100,
Going to Dell may or may not work with the "Dell auto whatever it is" as I'm not sure if it will support an OS that old.

Hollrobb 04-10-2017 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moefugger (Post 2269425)
Get to the point idiot.
Remove 99% of that babble.

Thank you for reading my back story. Glad you enjoyed it and with positive responses such as your's i'm encouraged to post more.
Thanks again and have a nice week ahead.

DontTreadOnMe2 04-10-2017 06:56 PM

So you used a recovery disk from another machine to "re-install" and now you are surprised that nothing seems to work....

Ok.....

All those recovery disk are specific to the model they came with.

You will have to research your machine to figure out what chipsets and VERSIONS of firmware that MIGHT be on your particular machine, for each and every device. That will eat up many, many hours of spare time. Then you can try to find said drivers in the sea of infected click bait that will come up with every search. If you are lucky - you could find the original install disks on the Dell website - but I would bet they won't be 2 dollars. Even if you find them all, download them, and they all work - In the end you will have a painfully slow machine that will not even browse the majority of websites.


Have fun!

Edit:

Load a version of Linux....

it will be more satisfying, and you will learn something useful.

Hollrobb 04-10-2017 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DontTreadOnMe2 (Post 2269534)
So you used a recovery disk from another machine to "re-install" and now you are surprised that nothing seems to work....

Ok.....

All those recovery disk are specific to the model they came with.

You will have to research your machine to figure out what chipsets and VERSIONS of firmware that MIGHT be on your particular machine, for each and every device. That will eat up many, many hours of spare time. Then you can try to find said drivers in the sea of infected click bait that will come up with every search. If you are lucky - you could find the original install disks on the Dell website - but I would bet they won't be 2 dollars. Even if you find them all, download them, and they all work - In the end you will have a painfully slow machine that will not even browse the majority of websites.


Have fun!

Edit:

Load a version of Linux....

it will be more satisfying, and you will learn something useful.

Maybe it's not a " recovery disk" at all. I've looked the booklet that was in with the disc and it has no mention of a specific model. Only 'Dell" and that is the brand of machine i am working on.
My intent was not to make a big deal of this project. I was just goofing around with what i have in my "Junk" pile of old laptops and towers. I would guess there's websites with groups of people that do just that for Shits and Giggles. Now that i think about it,, that is probably what i should do,,, find a site with members that have such interest.
Thanks for the reply and i'll see what i can learn about linux. I've heard of it but other then that i know nothing about it..
Take care and thanks again.

Hollrobb 04-10-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero-g (Post 2269427)
Just got up, and haven't had to work on anything that old in a while lol.

Have you tried going into the system bios and enabling usb or disc?
I think if you enable that service in bios you "should" be good to go. Then just use another pc to get your network card drivers , install them, and if you can get on the internet, go straight to dell and use their system to "inspect" your terminal for missing drivers etc.

* and you might wanna make sure your network card atleast supports 10/100,
Going to Dell may or may not work with the "Dell auto whatever it is" as I'm not sure if it will support an OS that old.

Thank you zero-g.. Yes i've been in the bios many times looking for such settings and have not found anything that has worked ,,yet. I keep getting driver errors. My whole set back is due to drivers. Can't get drivers on the machine because the method of getting drivers on it requires drivers that's needed to get drivers on it to get driv,,,,Well you see my problem.
Thanks again and have a nice day..

UKatheist 04-10-2017 08:57 PM

https://www.linux.com/learn/give-new-life-old-pcs-linux

Hollrobb 04-12-2017 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKatheist (Post 2269544)

Thank you for the link UKatheist . I went there and did some reading and found it very interesting. I then found a video with steps on how to make and install disc and use it to get a version of linux installed.
The ram on the laptop i was going to use is very low so i have ordered a pair of ram sticks. So in the meantime i made an linux install disc and attempted to load linux on a spare desktop that is up and running windows 7 but it seems my disc is not working . I'm sure i did something wrong when making it so i went and placed an order for a Linux Mint 18.1, MATE Desktop, 32 & 64 Bit, DVD-ROM..It was only a few bucks.
Thanks again and have a nice day.

Xavior 04-14-2017 06:25 PM

95/98/ME used device manager just like 2k/xp/vista/7/8/10.

Protip: Driver Packs. Don't slipstream just unpack and scan folders with device manager.

Otherwise: hunt drivers with hardware-id

P.S. even in the early two-thousands a lot of BIOS didn't even support USB boot. Only network, IDE, and SATA. VIA boards even later than that for some reason.. I had thinkpads that didn't even support CD boot but could run XP.


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