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Old 11-10-2017, 09:40 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Aquina1300 View Post
Of course diversity isn't going anywhere because America is and has always been a diverse multicultural country, but we used to know that the emphasis had to be on unum and not e pluribus.
Your 'e pluribus, unum' reference is perfect.

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Anyway, the sarcastic comment was a jab at Gen Casey who said within an hour of the Ft.Hood shooting that the worst thing would be if diversity was a casualty of the "workplace violence".
Ah. I guess that I forgot that statement if I ever heard it at the time. You're right on the money again. Nothing is more contemptible than whitewashing the tragedy and outrage of your fellows' murders with the deflections of politically correct ass-kissing. But then Generals don't get to be Generals unless they know when to kick ass and when to kiss ass. I suppose the stars on their shoulders make the stench of shit on their boots and the taste of it on their lips worth it.

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White devil doesnt bother me, the Chinese called my ancestors hu-man(Huns) which means white demon.
It's all well and good to take pride in your own peoples' heritage, whether they were Aztecs or Zulus, Vikings, Celts, Slavs, Teutonic Knights, Manchus, Persians, Romans, Goths, Vandals, Egyptians, Inuits, Aleuts or Lakota, Mandan, Maori, Sikh, Hindi, Samoan or Apache, Crow, Commanche, Salish or Blackfoot ...they all were either warriors or builders, sailors of the oceans or nomads of the wide steppes, scholars, seers, lords and masters of their conditions. None of us got here without our ancestors accomplishing things we should be proud of.

But it is not constructive nor functional to try working and living with people who are determined not only to vilify and hate your heritage, but also to attack you and your community with racial slurs, false allegations, criminal charges, personal assaults, riots, and political-ideological warfare. It's not workable to have a sector of your society continually act to politically, socially, and culturally tear down the fabric of that society and invalidate the social contracts which enable people in any society, but especially people in a diverse society, to live and work together in peace.

I can imagine the feelings of alienation many black people live with on a daily basis because of the turmoil kicked up by political activists capitalizing on the history of slavery in the New World, and we're all aware of the brutality of that centuries long history. The feelings of alienation and rage that come from being reminded on a daily basis that no matter what you do, what you accomplish, or what you contribute, some of the people you meet or work with or have to count on for services feel nothing but contempt and revulsion for you deep down. They wouldn't want their kids playing with yours. They wouldn't feel comfortable in the presence of you and your friends. They would want to wash their hands after shaking yours. And God Forbid you and yours becoming family through marriage. The feelings of white hot hatred fanned among those whose cherished ambitions are disappointed, as so many of us experience during the course of our lives, when they wonder what role this race hatred might be playing in their misfortunes. The fact that it continues in this day and age, after so much water has flowed under (and over) that bridge, poisons the enraged soul with bitterness and cynicism to boot.

"He hath disgraced me and hindered me half a million, laughed at my losses, mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine enemies—and what’s his reason? I am a -----! Hath not a ---- eyes? Hath not a ---- hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a ---- is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a ---- wrong a ----, what is his humility? Revenge. If a ---- wrong a ----, what should his sufferance be by (your own) example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute—and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction."
--- W. Shakespeare, The Merchant Of Venice, Act 3 scene 1

It's a problem. It's been an American problem from our beginning. It's become a European problem recently because of mass immigration. And either we're going to come up with some of the kind of solutions that Martin Luther King Jr. offered, or we're going to experience more bloodshed. Because bloodshed is the result of delighting in your own peoples' heritage (or despairing in it) while despising your neighbors'. Ask any Bosnian, Croat, or Serb, Kurd, or Armenian.
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