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Old 11-05-2016, 08:35 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by ericredbeard View Post
Moral according to what standard? The standard which benefits you? How righteous, to demand that what is moral be so defined. How absurd, to first require that the Creator of the Universe and its order be accountable to man's needs, and then to declare that if it is not accountable to our needs then it must not even exist! LOL. The egomania it takes to believe that your needs are necessarily at or even near the center of the Creator of the Universe's priorities is blinding. We are not in any position to demand anything.

Christians and Muslims do not run from discussions on the morality of their god. The morality of God and the complete lack of any necessity for God to account for Himself to you or mankind is treated bluntly in the Book of Job:

Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said:
2 "Who is this that darkens my counsel
with words without knowledge?

3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.

5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?

6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-

7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels shouted for joy?

(text continues listing God's works...)
...

The LORD said to Job:

2 "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!"

Then Job replied to the LORD :
2 "I know that you can do all things;
no plan of yours can be thwarted.

3 You asked, 'Who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?'
Surely I spoke of things I did not understand,
things too wonderful for me to know.

4 "You said, 'Listen now, and I will speak;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.'

5 My ears had heard of you
but now my eyes have seen you.

6 Therefore I despise myself
and repent in dust and ashes."
http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/~ras277...uality/job.htm

"Moral according to what standard?"

By mine which I like to compare with theists but they run from that discussion as it proves their poor morals to themselves.

"How absurd, to first require that the Creator of the Universe and its order be accountable to man's needs, `

Really.

Do the strong in your family serve the weak or do you expect the weak serve the strong?

Give your argument for the weak serving the strong instead of what we do naturally.

I like the story of Job but not from the way you read it.

It shows how much of a prick Yahweh can be when he has a bet to win.

This quote shows God even admitting to being evil ands a sinner.

Job 2;3 and he still holdeth fast his integrity, although thou didst move Me against him, to destroy him without cause.'

God, by allowing and encouraging Satan to act in an evil way is God facilitating evil and that shows just how evil that demiurge is.

I look forward to your argument as to why we should serve such an immoral prick.

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DL
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