Germany: between 'Mein Kampf' and the 'Koran'

[Thrush]

Israel defines itself as a state of and for the Jewish people, and about 80 percent of the population are Jews. It is, however, a country of immigrants, and unlike the indigenous Palestinian Israelis, the vast majority of Jewish Israelis (or their ancestors) have come to Israel from all over the world in the last 120 years, but mostly since 1948. The tiny communities of indigenous and intensely orthodox Jewish communities in places like Safed and Jerusalem, have largely remained separate from mainstream or even the "regular" ultra-orthodox Israeli Jewish population.

Two-thirds or so of Israel's Jews are Arabs--they or their ancestors emigrated to Israel from Morocco or Yemen, from Iraq or elsewhere in the Arab world. A small percentage of Israeli Jews are Africans, mainly Ethiopians; and the rest are what is known as Ashkenazi, or European Jews, of which about one-fifth are Russians who arrived in the 1990s.

It was European and Russian Jews, back in the 1880s, who first began significant Jewish immigration to what was then Ottoman Turkish- and later British-ruled Palestine. They came fleeing persecution and violent pogroms, or communal attacks, in czarist Russia and eastern Europe, and they came in answer to mobilizations organized by a movement known as Zionism, which called for all Jews to leave their countries of origin to live in a Jewish state in Palestine. The use of Hebrew, created as a modern language in the early 1900s, an orientation towards Europe and the U.S. rather than to the neighboring Middle East, and nearly universal military service (excepting only Arabs and ultra-orthodox Jews) became the central anchors around which national consciousness was built.

Israel defines itself as a state of the entire Jewish people, not simply a state for its own citizens. It encourages Jewish immigration through what is known as the Law of Return, under which any Jew born anywhere in the world, with or without pre-existing ties to Israel, has the right to claim immediate citizenship upon arrival in Israel, and the right to all the privileges of being Jewish in a Jewish state--including state-financed language classes, housing, job placement, medical and welfare benefits, etc. In most circumstances only Jews have the right to immigrate to Israel; the indigenous Palestinians and their ancestors are denied that right despite the Universal Declaration on Human Rights.

[Sea3]

Originally Posted by Thrush

Israel defines itself as a state of and for the Jewish people, and about 80 percent of the population are Jews. It is, however, a country of immigrants, and unlike the indigenous Palestinian Israelis, the vast majority of Jewish Israelis (or their ancestors) have come to Israel from all over the world in the last 120 years, but mostly since 1948. The tiny communities of indigenous and intensely orthodox Jewish communities in places like Safed and Jerusalem, have largely remained separate from mainstream or even the "regular" ultra-orthodox Israeli Jewish population.

Two-thirds or so of Israel's Jews are Arabs--they or their ancestors emigrated to Israel from Morocco or Yemen, from Iraq or elsewhere in the Arab world. A small percentage of Israeli Jews are Africans, mainly Ethiopians; and the rest are what is known as Ashkenazi, or European Jews, of which about one-fifth are Russians who arrived in the 1990s.

It was European and Russian Jews, back in the 1880s, who first began significant Jewish immigration to what was then Ottoman Turkish- and later British-ruled Palestine. They came fleeing persecution and violent pogroms, or communal attacks, in czarist Russia and eastern Europe, and they came in answer to mobilizations organized by a movement known as Zionism, which called for all Jews to leave their countries of origin to live in a Jewish state in Palestine. The use of Hebrew, created as a modern language in the early 1900s, an orientation towards Europe and the U.S. rather than to the neighboring Middle East, and nearly universal military service (excepting only Arabs and ultra-orthodox Jews) became the central anchors around which national consciousness was built.

Israel defines itself as a state of the entire Jewish people, not simply a state for its own citizens. It encourages Jewish immigration through what is known as the Law of Return, under which any Jew born anywhere in the world, with or without pre-existing ties to Israel, has the right to claim immediate citizenship upon arrival in Israel, and the right to all the privileges of being Jewish in a Jewish state--including state-financed language classes, housing, job placement, medical and welfare benefits, etc. In most circumstances only Jews have the right to immigrate to Israel; the indigenous Palestinians and their ancestors are denied that right despite the Universal Declaration on Human Rights.

hey thrush.....this is not Rest of the World forum, and your post has nothing to do with anything we talked here....unless you believe that Israel is in Europe ...

[Thrush]

Originally Posted by Sea3

hey thrush.....this is not Rest of the World forum, and your post has nothing to do with anything we talked here....unless you believe that Israel is in Europe ...

taking a poke at your human rights.... get it?

[Sea3]

Originally Posted by Thrush

taking a poke at your human rights.... get it?

boo-hoo...where is Israel?

1-Antartica?

2-Africa?

3-Brazilian jungle?

4-Iceland?

where?? chose the correct answer...

[Thrush]

Originally Posted by Sea3

boo-hoo...where is Israel?

1-Antartica?

2-Africa?

3-Brazilian jungle?

4-Iceland?

where?? chose the correct answer...

on foriegn soil

[Thrush]

back to the OP, you also might like
http://www.nazi.org.uk/political%20p...SecondBook.pdf

[Sea3]

Originally Posted by Thrush

on foriegn soil

OUCH.....

Listen to this, I didnt said that, a Palestinian did:
Jordan is the Palestinian state

[Thrush]

You know I'm only pissing on your parade right?

[YWAHW]

Originally Posted by Sea3

Your answer is not bad at all.
There is some true about what you said.
But I call Jew hater when someone is actually attacking me personally, like you, so many bloody/damn times, did already.

If you will be reasonable, I can even talk to you.

Dont make personal a critic about Israel coz I am not the Roly-poly toy of anybody.

I used to be more reasonable until I tried discussing Israel with Israelis. After their reaction I see reason is not their main concern when discussing Israel.

[Sea3]

Originally Posted by YWAHW

I used to be more reasonable until I tried discussing Israel with Israelis. After their reaction I see reason is not their main concern when discussing Israel.

you never discussed nothing with me before but attacked me.

I am so sorry you had bad experiences with others,but is not my fault.

from where do you believe can learn from Israel better than from someone that speaks from inside?

Unless you dont want to know.