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Old 04-29-2012, 08:15 PM   #81
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Fig 25%+ unemployment no end in sight?

How do unemployed people survive?

Pensions will be cut very shortly. There's interest to pay. People will have to survive off eating garbage like the Greeks.

Amazing that people still seem to carry on as if everything is normal.

A collective amnesia before the storm.
What do you suggest 'we' do?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:16 PM   #82
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I cannot wait to watch Spain burn to the ground and the people to start eating each other. Will be very entertaining.
And the trolling continues. Might want to consider taking a break from behaving like an immature cunt. Just for a change. I won't hold my breath though.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:18 PM   #83
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That isn't trolling, that is how I honestly feel about Spain. I hope you people devour each other. It would put a fucking smile on my face from ear to fucking ear.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:25 PM   #84
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That isn't trolling, that is how I honestly feel about Spain. I hope you people devour each other. It would put a fucking smile on my face from ear to fucking ear.
Why does Spain deserve this wrath more than any other country, Euro or otherwise? What makes them worthy of your derision? Is it a personal thing, or does Spain super-suck extra hard and i just don't know about it?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:45 PM   #85
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Fig 25%+ unemployment no end in sight?

How do unemployed people survive?

Pensions will be cut very shortly. There's interest to pay. People will have to survive off eating garbage like the Greeks.

Amazing that people still seem to carry on as if everything is normal.

A collective amnesia before the storm.
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What do you suggest 'we' do?
Learn to barter and eat veggies
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:45 PM   #86
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Did you not read my post?
There is no recovery coming for Spain's economy this is a global transformation. Jobs are gone to India and China permanently. Spain's middle-class just got outsourced.

It is a con job that good times are just around the corner. Something that the elites tell everyone to maintain the status quo for as long as possible.

Pensions are only going to paid by money printing not tax collection and there is only one way that goes and that's inflation. This is not going to remain a stable situation Fig. All this free money to the banking buddies just let's the elites get richer and prices will go up eventually. However, as the stockmarket bubbles up with free speculative money to the banks it eventually does leak out.

Austerity is when you cannot get anymore euros to pay the unemployment pensions.

This isn't even a storm yet. It's just clouds.

The only solution is exiting the euro and nationalist economic policies that put people first.
The arrest of the banking elites for treason.

This is not on the cards yet of course because the general population will try and avoid change for much as possible. As you say, unemployment pensions are paid so that keeps things rolling.

People need to get hungry before they act.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:02 PM   #87
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There is no recovery coming for Spain's economy this is a global transformation. Jobs are gone to India and China permanently. Spain's middle-class just got outsourced.

It is a con job that good times are just around the corner. Something that the elites tell everyone to maintain the status quo for as long as possible.

Pensions are only going to paid by money printing not tax collection and there is only one way that goes and that's inflation. This is not going to remain a stable situation Fig. All this free money to the banking buddies just let's the elites get richer and prices will go up eventually. However, as the stockmarket bubbles up with free speculative money to the banks it eventually does leak out.

Austerity is when you cannot get anymore euros to pay the unemployment pensions.

This isn't even a storm yet. It's just clouds..
Mmm, that wasn't your question and I've already addressed these points you're talking about and which I don't totally disagree with. Once again I recommend you read my post before you reply.

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The only solution is exiting the euro and nationalist economic policies that put people first.
The arrest of the banking elites for treason.

This is not on the cards yet of course because the general population will try and avoid change for much as possible. As you say, unemployment pensions are paid so that keeps things rolling.

People need to get hungry before they act.
Ah of course, I knew this was coming. The evil euro, lol. Funnily enough the euro's reason d'etre is precisely to facilitate nationalistic economic policies instead of economic policies tied to a foreign currency aka the dollar. Sure, in an ideal world there wouldn't be a dominating currency and everyone could rely on their own currency but that's not reality and like it or not and contrary to your assertion, the euro represents a move towards nationalistic interests of if you don't like putting it that way, a move towards less loss of sovereignty towards the dollar.

As for the rest of your post although I agree with the premise I disagree with your assertion that the general populations are doing anything because they want to avoid change. They aren't doing anything because they remain clueless, both willfully and unwillfully thanks to state and media propaganda. And more importantly, even if they weren't there's little they can do about it as the system is rigged to the core. Thank fuck for football, as some would say.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:53 PM   #88
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:22 PM   #89
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Why does Spain deserve this wrath more than any other country, Euro or otherwise? What makes them worthy of your derision? Is it a personal thing, or does Spain super-suck extra hard and i just don't know about it?
It is karma that I am cheering for. The Spanish raped and pillaged their way into their wealth. It is suiting to watch them rape and pillage each other over the remaining scraps.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:37 PM   #90
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Jobs are gone to India and China permanently.
Not so, rising transportation costs of finished goods caused by high oil prices and quality control problems means that some companies are now returning the manufacturing process and jobs back from places like the Far East and Asia. Just a trickle of companies at the moment but definitely growing as costs in the West are driven down by the recession.
Measures like the Spanish government's relaxation of employment laws will only make this an even more attractive option to companies.
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