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Old 05-07-2012, 04:34 PM   #21
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Sarko was a little shitebag though
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:06 PM   #22
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Hollande says French-German relationship must change

PARIS — Francois Hollande said he wanted to make Berlin his first stop as president of France, but he warned that the Franco-German partnership was going to have to change and that Europe’s key word from now on was “growth.”

But while Chancellor Angela Merkel said she would welcome Hollande “with open arms” in the German capital, she made clear that she would not accept his plan to renegotiate the European Union’s controversial “austerity treaty” or pump E.U. funds into the continent’s stagnant economies.

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Both leaders were setting out markers for negotiations likely to begin as soon as Hollande officially takes power May 15, or even sooner. The goal will be to reach a Franco-German agreement before an informal E.U. summit conference in Brussels around June 1 to discuss what some officials have characterized as a “growth pact” to complement the austerity pact.

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Although the German and French starting positions seemed far apart, analysts suggested there was a lot of room for compromise despite Merkel’s open support for Sarkozy during the campaign. Moreover, they added, Merkel and Hollande both know that Franco-German friendship is vital to both countries and has been a pillar of national politics on both sides of the Rhine since Charles de Gaulle reconciled with Konrad Adenauer a half a century ago.

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Even before Sunday’s runoff election, senior Hollande aides were in Germany reassuring Merkel’s government, according to reports in the German news media. A note summarizing their discussions predicted the new French president will seek “a pragmatic solution” to the standoff and “wants to align himself in continuity with Franco-German efforts for Europe,” the reports said.

Actually, the European Union’s 27 member nations already declared at their last summit March 2 that the debt crisis is on its way to resolution and that they would increasingly be looking for ways to stimulate their economies. The main difference between Merkel and Hollande is over how that should be done.

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Why Obama isn't cheering for France's new socialist president

You might think the Obama White House would be cheering for Francois Hollande, the Socialist Party leader who just won France’s presidential election. Obama's no socialist, except in the eyes of the "tea party" right; but Hollande’s economic policies -- especially his desire for more stimulus instead of Europe’s current bent for austerity -- are just what the White House has been asking for. And in an election year, you’' think any victory for a center-left party would bolster Democrats.

Instead, the Obama administration was of two minds about France's election. A few American diplomats were even rooting privately for Nicolas Sarkozy, the conservative incumbent, to win. Why?

From the standpoint of U.S. foreign policy, Hollande could mean trouble. Sarkozy's domestic policies weren't anything like Obama's, but internationally he was the most pro-American leader France has seen in a long time.

Sarkozy aligned French policy with the United States on several important issues. He kept French troops in Afghanistan despite domestic pressure to withdraw. He was as tough as the Americans on Iran -- maybe even tougher. He helped lead Europe and the United States into a war to topple Libyan dictator Moammar Kadafi. He was so openly pro-U.S. that he was nicknamed "Sarko the American" at home.

Hollande ran against those policies -- albeit moderately. During his campaign, the socialist leader promised to speed up France's withdrawal from Afghanistan to bring troops home by the end of 2012, a year ahead of NATO's schedule. He questioned France's return to NATO's military command structure, one of Sarkozy’s pro-American moves. And he said he's "reticent"” about a U.S.-promoted European missile defense project. (On the other hand, Hollande did say he would continue Sarkozy's tough policies on Iran and Syria.)

Even on economic policy, where Hollande's policies are what Obama wanted, it's not all good news. The new French leader has promised to renegotiate Europe's fiscal pact. "Not possible," the austerity-loving German government of Angela Merkel warned on Monday. There's one thing the Obama administration likes even less than austerity -- and that's the prospect of a renewed financial crisis.

Obama and Hollande will get a chance to smooth over any differences and declare a new era of Franco-American friendship very soon. France's new president is due at Camp David for his first G-8 summit on May 18.
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No chance of refusing to meet Hollande again this time. Merkel, Cameron and Obama will have no option but to listen to him.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:05 PM   #23
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PARIS — Francois Hollande said he wanted to make Berlin his first stop as president of France, but he warned that the Franco-German partnership was going to have to change....
The French have a long history of standing up to Germany……Oh sorry, I was thinking of somebody else.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:42 AM   #24
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No chance of refusing to meet Hollande again this time. Merkel, Cameron and Obama will have no option but to listen to him.
Until his socialist policies fail and he is kicked out on his arse...I reckon Le Penn has played a blinder on this one, She knows socialism only ever fails, so next election there will be a large anti left contingent all ready to vote for Her!
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Until his socialist policies fail and he is kicked out on his arse...I reckon Le Penn has played a blinder on this one, She knows socialism only ever fails, so next election there will be a large anti left contingent all ready to vote for Her!
It seems the left is gaining power again all over Europe, including the UK. Go hide under your bed Seanjo, the commies are coming!
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #26
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It seems the left is gaining power again all over Europe, including the UK. Go hide under your bed Seanjo, the commies are coming!

Eh? we have a coalition government with a very left subordinate "half", The left...as in Labour are having a mid-term lift, doesn't mean if there was an election tomorrow, they would get in...not with Milliband as leader! Thatcher had many such blips, so did Blair, but they still got in repeatedly because there was no real alternative. As for the rise of the left in Europe...if they do start to take over, I feel sorry for you all.
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Eh? we have a coalition government with a very left subordinate "half", The left...as in Labour are having a mid-term lift, doesn't mean if there was an election tomorrow, they would get in...not with Milliband as leader! Thatcher had many such blips, so did Blair, but they still got in repeatedly because there was no real alternative. As for the rise of the left in Europe...if they do start to take over, I feel sorry for you all.
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In Scotland they gained a majority in Glasgow, while in Wales their results were the best since 1996 and in England they gained 22 councils.

Overall Labour gained 823 councillors. The Tories lost 405 and Lib Dems 336.

With all the results in, the BBC's projection of the national share of the vote has Labour with a 38% national share of the vote, up three points, with the Tories down four on 31%.

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Old 05-08-2012, 10:07 AM   #28
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Mid term blip as I said, every Government goes through it, the General election is where the real decisions are made.

And LOL at Milliband as a source....BWAAAAAAAAahahahahahahahahahahaah: lolz:
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Mid term blip as I said, every Government goes through it, the General election is where the real decisions are made.

And LOL at Milliband as a source....BWAAAAAAAAahahahahahahahahahahaah: lolz:
Milliband is not the source. The BBC is. Look at the bloody stats you dolt! and cry
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I'm excited to see how it goes for France. I hope that it works, but I'd bet that he'll end up like Obama, not nearly living up to his promises and expectations and there will be many disillusioned young voters in France in a couple years.
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