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View Poll Results: How do you think people become gay?
A 'defect' from birth 7 31.82%
A choice made during youth/teenage years 3 13.64%
To be fashionable/rebel 1 4.55%
Other (please state) 11 50.00%
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:40 AM   #31
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It is high compared to the general population. If a fraternal twin is gay, there is also a higher rate of the other twin being gay than the general population but it's lower than the rate of instances of identical twins.

I agree. There is a genetic component but it is not the only cause of homosexuality and it's very unclear as to what sort of role genetics might play. Even if a genetic component is necessary, which may or may not be the case, there's no evidence as to what the "trigger" is. No one knows what may turn on or off this or that genetic sequence.
no one knows what may trigger the schizophrenic gene, either, but there's clearly a genetic component to it. like any other tendency people have, it's a combination of genetics and environment.

and the 30% are only the ones that admit to it...
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:40 AM   #32
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Also, trait variation and genome expression is only a component of natural selection. It still relies on the randomness of genetic mutation to first alter genomes, and then the interaction of those genome traits with the environment.

So you might be partly right, Nox, but something leads me to believe you don't really understand the nuances of this whole evolution thing, and your partial correctness was purely accidental.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:49 AM   #33
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combo of genetics and secret Illuminati plot to contaminate water supplies with powerful hormone mutating chemical agents to reduce the population and prepare for the lizard invasion.
Fuckin' lizard invasion! Finally someone else who understands. They have underwater bases bro, be careful down there.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:06 AM   #34
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LOL @ A in college biology yet you don't understand natural selection. Our system is more fucked than I thought.
hmmm, did typing that make you feel better?

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1. Yes, agents can mutate genes. But not an 'environment'. Agents within that environment, such as radiation. These agents will not 'adapt' a person's DNA to fulfill a niche in any environment. They can, however, kill off those animals which are not protected against them, after generations upon generations.
ah so you agree now . . . . agents are found in an "environment" are they not? The body is continuously responding to outside stimuli and does its best to do what it can to survive. Maybe not an instantaneous adaptation but a response or a signal and eventually a change.
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Suddenly being dropped in a desert will not adapt your DNA in any fashion.
right, but stay there for a multitude of generations and a change will occur, good or bad.
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Agents which are destructive to DNA and occur in that environment, such as radiations, can. This is wildly different than the 3rd grade grasp of evolution you seem to have.
Not sure why you are going this route but your ad hominem attack tells me exactly what I want to hear, thanks for your butthurt, lol.
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2. Yes, there is a difference between people who live at the equator and those who live further apart. This is because those who's mutations allowed them to be successful, were more successful. And those who weren't, died off. The lack of hair was a random genetic mutation which happened to be successful, and therefore it got passed on. The DNA wasn't like "Fuck it's hot in here, turn off the hair fellas".
i agree with this and . . . . .
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3. Recessive and dominant expression is different than evolution.
ok, and?
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4. It is a myth that women's menstrual cycles sink when they live together.
no, actually it is true
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Even if it wasn't, that has nothing to do with DNA. DNA codes for the creation of protein strains which build the physical form of an animal.
right, physical form and the way that physical form functions and responds to the environment.
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A woman's DNA doesn't have to be altered for her menstrual cycle to change.
no but it is in her DNA to be able to change
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If this was the case, birth control would alter DNA and then it would alter back once the birth control was finished.
are you just typing stuff?
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I don't even know why you're arguing dude.
yeah, yeah, i know you think very highly of yourself but believe it or not you might be wrong or not entirely right
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Is is basic science here.
Funny how you keep throwing that term out "basic science". Is that the class you took? Because I never heard of it but it might explain your reluctance to think about what you learned instead of robotly vomitting out points you memorized for the tests in "Basic Science" class, lol
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Look it up yourself and you'll see that your ideas about evolution and natural selection are completely wrong.
oh,oh, ok buddy thanks for the tip!!
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:23 AM   #35
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:47 AM   #36
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Lead us, Evolution, lead us
Up the future's endless stair;
Chop us, change us, prod us, weed us.
For stagnation is despair:
Groping, guessing, yet progressing,
Lead us nobody knows where.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:40 AM   #37
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Exclamation The Gay Gene.

Unless something significant has been found since 2006, This is what Dr. Neil Whitehead has to say. I would think he has more than a high school biology education. A succinct answer in 46 seconds.




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30% chance is pretty high compared to the general population, though.

i think it's a gene that either remains dormant or develops.

similar to the schizophrenic gene - in identical twins, if one has it, there's a 50% chance the other will have it, too. it's a gene that either develops or doesn't.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:50 AM   #38
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Okay, i've found it. The environmental trigger to the gay gene. Doing the spirit fingers dance brings on the faggotry.

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Old 05-10-2012, 09:50 AM   #39
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I'm remaining open minded, but recently it has been shown that serotonin has a part to play in what sex is preferred, so it is possibly just a chemical deficiency, like Diabetes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12825688
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:51 AM   #40
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From birth. If it's a 'defect' it's an evolutionary one, not a moral one. The gays I have met are in no way deviant or immoral.
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