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Old 05-10-2012, 02:15 AM   #31
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How do you measure existence?
What quality or quantity makes you alive?

It's a simple question.......Justify yourself.

I am, therefore I do...Kant,
I do,therefore I am...Descarties,
Do be Do be Do....Sinatra,
is no longer valid. The machine now does what we use to do!
All we do is serve the 'Machine', promote it's advancement!
We are creating that which will evolutionarily replace us.
by our own whimsy, we are becoming extinct!

Think carefully on this!
Being alive is far different than being aware.

Life is the processing of nutrients to sustain a state of being and replication of of the organism.

Various levels of awareness have been attained by most animate organisms. From the simplest give and take with the local environment to the actual reconstruction of the environment to the artificial construction of enclosed habitats which protect the organism contained within in harsh or anti-life environments.

For a start.... have you got a few years?
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:54 AM   #32
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Being alive is far different than being aware.

Life is the processing of nutrients to sustain a state of being and replication of of the organism.

Various levels of awareness have been attained by most animate organisms. From the simplest give and take with the local environment to the actual reconstruction of the environment to the artificial construction of enclosed habitats which protect the organism contained within in harsh or anti-life environments.

For a start.... have you got a few years?
There's the problem......these old terms no longer reflect what were discovering about self-awareness, conscience, and most importantly what is sentient.

What about the machines we think we make? Many are animated, and seem to have self-awareness. Are they alive, even if it a 'basic' form of existence?

What about when a machine attains conscience, as we currently define it? Can we, should we consider it alive?

In my opinion the speed at which technology is advancing, it won't be much longer that a sentient machine 'becomes'. Then look out!

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Old 05-10-2012, 10:03 AM   #33
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What about when a machine attains conscience, as we currently define it? Can we, should we consider it alive?

In my opinion the speed at which technology is advancing, it won't be much longer that a sentient machine 'becomes'. Then look out!
Then look out for what? What is so bad about artificial life?
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:11 AM   #34
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Old 05-11-2012, 01:05 AM   #35
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Wow. Reading through this thread was like watching an addict trying to justify their addiction.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:26 AM   #36
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:04 AM   #37
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Again - you state that "you" would "give" "your" life purpose. No - such would be irrelevant, a cockroach may "give" "it's" life purpose - but such is irrelevant.

Our lives are dependent upon God, and so is our purpose.
All life is relevant in nature, all animals evolve to have a purpose in nature.
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All life is relevant in nature, all animals evolve to have a purpose in nature.
What if that 'life' didn't evolve...but was invented.
Can we consider the invention process an evolutionary process for machine life?
sorta blows a hole in this idea of 'purpose in nature' when the 'life' didn't come from nature.
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Then look out for what? What is so bad about artificial life?
Ask the oppisite....what is so good about it?

At the current level of technology Man has become a servant to the machine, while the machine makes itself.

How long before we become a slave for the machine (I guess I should capitalize this word now) when it the Machine obtains conscience, and then sentience?
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What if that 'life' didn't evolve...but was invented.
Can we consider the invention process an evolutionary process for machine life?
sorta blows a hole in this idea of 'purpose in nature' when the 'life' didn't come from nature.
I respect your belief, but all the evidence shows that life evolved.....it shouldn't be a hard thing to accept for a Christian, the Word of God written by Man is anecdotal in nature, not factual...look at it this way...what a wonderful and beautiful motor God has created in the evolutionary mechanism.

Personally I hope there is a creator.
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