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Old 02-17-2013, 01:10 AM   #1
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I'll bet you that Solar energy is not the technology of the future. The current (pun intended) state of solar energy collection is costly, inefficient, and has to be stored in batteries, the disposal of which is as harmful or more harmful than the alleged dangers of fossil fuel. Millions of taxpayer dollars lining the pockets of politicians like Pelosi who should be a "was" instead of an "is", wasted on an technology that cannot compete against fossil fuels. A new technology has emerged called the Super-supercapacitor. To me, this is the first viable technology that really works. It can depend on the sun but not exclusively. As a Weather Forecaster this intrigues me because the electrical energy from one good size thunderstorm could power a city the size of New York for a year. Watch the video embedded in the story at the following link

http://singularityhub.com/2013/01/29...upercapacitor/

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Old 02-17-2013, 01:18 AM   #2
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Super capacitors and other materials with high charge/dischcharge capacities are definitely going to be an integral part of future energy production, particularly when we adopt alternative energy sources that need time shifting.

I reject your rejection of solar. These super capacitors only store energy, not create it.

Ben Franklin harnessed atmospheric electric potential, but there isn't much talk about it as a future energy source.
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Old 02-17-2013, 01:30 AM   #3
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You can collect solar as well with the current technology or any emerging more efficient technology if your wish.

I'm talking about capturing the energy from thunderstorms that would be collected on the plates of these super super-capacitors. I envision on capacitor that would take up the area of the conventional solar multi-megawatt array. It can then be transmitted via exiting technology The (power grid) to a storage super super-capacitor where it's needed, i.e. your home where it would provide power for months or years.
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I get what you're saying. It's a very bright future ahead. This sort of technology starts to address the load balancing between supply and demand ... the most obvious weakness of intermittent sources (such as weather or day/night).

Energy production looks so promising, there might even be a change of heart about the power grid. In the future, we will do one of two things:

1. Expand power girds, possibly into a global grid. That would solve solar without super capacitors.

2. Abandon the grid. Power generation will become so easy there is no need for all that infrastructure, it will become localized.

I have no idea what will happen, which is fun too.
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Super capacitors and other materials with high charge/dischcharge capacities are definitely going to be an integral part of future energy production, particularly when we adopt alternative energy sources that need time shifting.

I reject your rejection of solar. These super capacitors only store energy, not create it.

Ben Franklin harnessed atmospheric electric potential, but there isn't much talk about it as a future energy source.

Quite contraire mon ami, with power to spare
http://www.earthinginstitute.net/com...al_surface.pdf
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:26 AM   #6
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Quite contraire mon ami, with power to spare
http://www.earthinginstitute.net/com...al_surface.pdf
I didn't read the whole document, it's a bit too technical for my non-scientific brain.

However, I stand corrected, there's way more research and knowledge of atmospheric electrical potential than I thought.

Add it to solar, wind, wave, hydro, and you've got a bloody lot of options.

That's why I wonder about the future of large grids. They may as well recycle the copper.
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