Liveleak Forums  

Go Back   Liveleak Forums > Politics and Society > North America

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-23-2013, 02:15 PM   #71
Blackhawk067
Porpoise Eradicator
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: US
Posts: 7,391
Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!Blackhawk067 is a forum GOD!!
Points: 286,930,229, Level: 100
Points: 286,930,229, Level: 100 Points: 286,930,229, Level: 100 Points: 286,930,229, Level: 100
Activity: 1%
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twright55 View Post
Those are not Bradleys. Those are M728 CEVs (Combat Engineer Vehicle.)
I know because I was assigned to one at the time this went down. I remember watching this live in the barracks on CNN and the commentator was calling these vehicles Bradleys at the time and it seems to have stuck. I've never seen any footage of an actual Bradley at Waco. I was at Ft. Bliss at the time...one army post away from Ft. Hood where those CEVs came from (I was in the 3rd Cav. and Ft Hood is the 2nd Cav.)

Little brother is in 3rd ACR at Hood. They just switched over from Bradleys to Strykers.
Blackhawk067 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2013, 08:44 PM   #72
ericredbeard
grotesque&incomprehensibl
 
ericredbeard's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lost in translation
Posts: 8,549
ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!
Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100
Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100 Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100 Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100
Activity: 32%
Activity: 32% Activity: 32% Activity: 32%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wimbly View Post
Yes I forgot to mention Ruby Ridge - another favorite martyrdom moment in the annals of right wing nutterdom.

Even the wiki page says the officer missed and hit Vicki Weaver.

To the rest of the world those aren't examples of government excess and attacks on the right to bear arms. We just shrug and say, "Oh yeah, those crazies that got themselves killed, I remember them".
I'm sure that's how they view it in places which never had a Constitution like ours. More's the pity for them.

Why do you think Mr. Weaver was awarded a sizeable sum in compensation for the incident, instead of going to jail? The jury didn't see it like "that crazy guy got his wife killed", did they?
__________________
My country will cook you like a cheap biscuit. --- chainsaw65

"...and I have an angry mob, that will roast and eat your 'men of quality' in the ashes of the Senate House" --- Marc Antony, HBO's ROME

I don't have 'some way to put it', that's the way it is. --- Anton Chigurh
ericredbeard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 04:40 AM   #73
ericredbeard
grotesque&incomprehensibl
 
ericredbeard's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lost in translation
Posts: 8,549
ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!ericredbeard is a forum GOD!!
Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100
Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100 Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100 Points: 872,639,321, Level: 100
Activity: 32%
Activity: 32% Activity: 32% Activity: 32%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rancid-death View Post
That is not flames coming out of the tank, it's some heavier than air gas, not only do flames create light they also go upwards, the inside of the building remains dark at all times...conspiracy bollox
Bollocks. It's a flaming substance. Leave the photo analysis to someone who knows what they're talking about.



Shock and Awe isn't just for Afghanis and Iraqis!
Fuck YEA!!!!
http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/guyontank.jpg
__________________
My country will cook you like a cheap biscuit. --- chainsaw65

"...and I have an angry mob, that will roast and eat your 'men of quality' in the ashes of the Senate House" --- Marc Antony, HBO's ROME

I don't have 'some way to put it', that's the way it is. --- Anton Chigurh

Last edited by ericredbeard; 02-24-2013 at 04:53 AM.
ericredbeard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 05:55 AM   #74
smeblee
Dumpster Diving
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,197
smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!
Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100
Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100 Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100 Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100
Activity: 99%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

smeblee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 09:07 AM   #75
rancid-death
Fight War Not Wars
 
rancid-death's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: GB London
Posts: 6,105
rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!rancid-death is a forum GOD!!
Points: 550,003,501, Level: 100
Points: 550,003,501, Level: 100 Points: 550,003,501, Level: 100 Points: 550,003,501, Level: 100
Activity: 27%
Activity: 27% Activity: 27% Activity: 27%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericredbeard View Post
Bollocks. It's a flaming substance. Leave the photo analysis to someone who knows what they're talking about.
Quick run to the log cabin the guvmit is after you
rancid-death is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 09:35 AM   #76
smeblee
Dumpster Diving
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,197
smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!
Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100
Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100 Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100 Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100
Activity: 99%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

The vid I posted has 3 parts, one of them clearly shows flame on the combat vehicle I have never seen that before, the flame is not from turret but down low..

Also shows under ground bunker on fire in front of water tower, going against official story..
And the guy they shot coming home from work, they let hang on fence for 4 days, getting taking down with grappling hook and chopper..
smeblee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 09:40 AM   #77
smeblee
Dumpster Diving
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,197
smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!smeblee is a forum GOD!!
Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100
Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100 Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100 Points: 2,147,544,146, Level: 100
Activity: 99%
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
Default

smeblee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 03:00 PM   #78
Mac-Tan
Loves Jumao-as
 
Mac-Tan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: US
Posts: 3,896
Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!Mac-Tan is a forum GOD!!
Points: 470,637,478, Level: 100
Points: 470,637,478, Level: 100 Points: 470,637,478, Level: 100 Points: 470,637,478, Level: 100
Activity: 9%
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by faurkbeans View Post
I think what was done to the Branch Davidians was wrong. I think the feds burned them up, including all those innocent children, and they knew exactly what they were doing. They torched that building and that was the objective. Not in some national conspiracy type of way but in a dirty pig kind of way. Nowadays we can't even trust our own police. They're overpowered, sometimes highly unstable, dickheads who can kill with authority and without discretion. The level of power we let them hold over us is disgusting.

It doesn't matter to me that they were bat shit crazy religious. What happened to them was wrong, period. The pigs used one of their infinite amount of bullshit excuses to go in there and burnt all those people up when they fought back.
I know this thread has been going for some time and what I have to say has probably already been said. It wasn't local police... it was the Federal government, several agencies, including the Texas National Guard.

I agree with you because in this country we have a Constitutional right to worship... even if you are bat shit crazy. That was back in 1993, what do you think our government is capable of NOW?
Yea, give up your weapons.
__________________
A pen in the hand of this president (Obama) is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. - Clint "get off my lawn" Eastwood---
I can't understand the American woman. Asian women... especially the Filipina, will talk with her eyes. There is no mistaking what she is saying.
Mac-Tan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 03:09 PM   #79
l8rm8e
LiveLeaker
 
l8rm8e's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tasmania
Posts: 21,184
l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!l8rm8e is a forum GOD!!
Points: 944,740,531, Level: 100
Points: 944,740,531, Level: 100 Points: 944,740,531, Level: 100 Points: 944,740,531, Level: 100
Activity: 16%
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
Default

I call BS on that Doc Smebs posted ... I remember the bat shit crazy sermons "Vernon" delivered (without audio) on this documentary.

How convenient the agenda dictating documentary editor ordered the narrator to claim a tongue in cheek claim of "being God" whilst muting the audio on the subsequent video footage of David Koresh claiming he was Jesus.

These fuckers were cray cray eh? Who can credibly claim otherwise?
l8rm8e is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2013, 03:34 PM   #80
dad61
Dumpster Diving
 

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Just left of Uranus
Posts: 33,496
dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!dad61 is a forum GOD!!
Points: 1,956,337,649, Level: 100
Points: 1,956,337,649, Level: 100 Points: 1,956,337,649, Level: 100 Points: 1,956,337,649, Level: 100
Activity: 21%
Activity: 21% Activity: 21% Activity: 21%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by l8rm8e View Post
I call BS on that Doc Smebs posted ... I remember the bat shit crazy sermons "Vernon" delivered (without audio) on this documentary.

How convenient the agenda dictating documentary editor ordered the narrator to claim a tongue in cheek claim of "being God" whilst muting the audio on the subsequent video footage of David Koresh claiming he was Jesus.

These fuckers were cray cray eh? Who can credibly claim otherwise?
You can't just dismiss the actions of our gov at Waco simply because you and some others deem them cray cray.

And I'm not saying that they were not, I simply defend them because they were living breathing beings and the gov doesn't have the right to just snuff them out.
dad61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:59 PM.