Waco

[Blackhawk067]

Originally Posted by twright55

Those are not Bradleys. Those are M728 CEVs (Combat Engineer Vehicle.)
I know because I was assigned to one at the time this went down. I remember watching this live in the barracks on CNN and the commentator was calling these vehicles Bradleys at the time and it seems to have stuck. I've never seen any footage of an actual Bradley at Waco. I was at Ft. Bliss at the time...one army post away from Ft. Hood where those CEVs came from (I was in the 3rd Cav. and Ft Hood is the 2nd Cav.)

Little brother is in 3rd ACR at Hood. They just switched over from Bradleys to Strykers.

[ericredbeard]

Originally Posted by Wimbly

Yes I forgot to mention Ruby Ridge - another favorite martyrdom moment in the annals of right wing nutterdom.

Even the wiki page says the officer missed and hit Vicki Weaver.

To the rest of the world those aren't examples of government excess and attacks on the right to bear arms. We just shrug and say, "Oh yeah, those crazies that got themselves killed, I remember them".

I'm sure that's how they view it in places which never had a Constitution like ours. More's the pity for them.

Why do you think Mr. Weaver was awarded a sizeable sum in compensation for the incident, instead of going to jail? The jury didn't see it like "that crazy guy got his wife killed", did they?

[ericredbeard]

Originally Posted by rancid-death

That is not flames coming out of the tank, it's some heavier than air gas, not only do flames create light they also go upwards, the inside of the building remains dark at all times...conspiracy bollox

Bollocks. It's a flaming substance. Leave the photo analysis to someone who knows what they're talking about.



Shock and Awe isn't just for Afghanis and Iraqis!
Fuck YEA!!!!
http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/guyontank.jpg

[smeblee]

[rancid-death]

Originally Posted by ericredbeard

Bollocks. It's a flaming substance. Leave the photo analysis to someone who knows what they're talking about.

Quick run to the log cabin the guvmit is after you

[smeblee]

The vid I posted has 3 parts, one of them clearly shows flame on the combat vehicle I have never seen that before, the flame is not from turret but down low..

Also shows under ground bunker on fire in front of water tower, going against official story..
And the guy they shot coming home from work, they let hang on fence for 4 days, getting taking down with grappling hook and chopper..

[smeblee]

[Mac-Tan]

Originally Posted by faurkbeans

I think what was done to the Branch Davidians was wrong. I think the feds burned them up, including all those innocent children, and they knew exactly what they were doing. They torched that building and that was the objective. Not in some national conspiracy type of way but in a dirty pig kind of way. Nowadays we can't even trust our own police. They're overpowered, sometimes highly unstable, dickheads who can kill with authority and without discretion. The level of power we let them hold over us is disgusting.

It doesn't matter to me that they were bat shit crazy religious. What happened to them was wrong, period. The pigs used one of their infinite amount of bullshit excuses to go in there and burnt all those people up when they fought back.

I know this thread has been going for some time and what I have to say has probably already been said. It wasn't local police... it was the Federal government, several agencies, including the Texas National Guard.

I agree with you because in this country we have a Constitutional right to worship... even if you are bat shit crazy. That was back in 1993, what do you think our government is capable of NOW?
Yea, give up your weapons.

[l8rm8e]

I call BS on that Doc Smebs posted ... I remember the bat shit crazy sermons "Vernon" delivered (without audio) on this documentary.

How convenient the agenda dictating documentary editor ordered the narrator to claim a tongue in cheek claim of "being God" whilst muting the audio on the subsequent video footage of David Koresh claiming he was Jesus.

These fuckers were cray cray eh? Who can credibly claim otherwise?

[dad61]

Originally Posted by l8rm8e

I call BS on that Doc Smebs posted ... I remember the bat shit crazy sermons "Vernon" delivered (without audio) on this documentary.

How convenient the agenda dictating documentary editor ordered the narrator to claim a tongue in cheek claim of "being God" whilst muting the audio on the subsequent video footage of David Koresh claiming he was Jesus.

These fuckers were cray cray eh? Who can credibly claim otherwise?

You can't just dismiss the actions of our gov at Waco simply because you and some others deem them cray cray.

And I'm not saying that they were not, I simply defend them because they were living breathing beings and the gov doesn't have the right to just snuff them out.