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Old 05-18-2017, 09:17 PM   #1
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ust when you think the climate change lunacy couldn't get any worse, the U.N.'s climate-crats up the ante. Meeting in Bonn, Germany, for yet another unneeded climate conference, attendees are now demanding $300 billion a year more to help less-developed nations cope with anticipated climatic warming. Are they kidding?

By the way, that $300 billion is in addition to the $100 billion that the world's governments have already promised to deliver under the Paris Climate Agreement. So now they're asking for a total of $400 billion a year in climate welfare for the developing world. No sane government would sign on to such a scam. Which of course means that most of them probably will.

There's really no end to this insanity. To make it worse, the proposal before the Bonn climate talks calls for the added taxpayer-funded cash to be doled out not by the governments themselves, or even the U.N. No, the money will be channeled through existing nongovernmental organizations, or NGOs.

In other words, left-wing green groups around the world will become the conduits for billions of dollars in money handed out to ethically challenged, nondemocratic governments. Think there might be a tiny temptation for corruption there?

As one green group leader put it, NGOs, not the U.N., need to dole out all this money because "It's so tedious to set up an institution and get it going, and make sure the money reaches the intended people."

Such a scheme will no doubt lead to massive looting and fraud by green groups, which will suddenly hire massive new staffs to handle their new duties, and pay for it all through enormous "handling fees," "service charges," and other nontransparent charges paid for by American taxpayers. Basically, it's a financial model designed to create global fraud.

All of this is based, mind you, on the purely hypothetical future threat that global warming supposedly poses to low-income nations.
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I'm beginning to believe that maybe suicide is the best option for "western" nations. If the governments and people of those nations are foolish enough to fall for such a fucking ridiculous scheme as climate change kleptocracy, western nations deserve to wiped off the face of the Earth.

Srsly, what do developed nations get out of this other than a feeling of moral superiority for being utter imbeciles.

GAWD, there has never been, in all of human history, so many who are willing to part with so much for no reason at all.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:22 PM   #2
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And how it the money to be used .. exactly?
Every time we gave the UN money for something we ended up feeding and medicating the warring factions while NATO shows up for the photo op and stays out of it.
Now they want to sell it as this tripe to a generation that is ignorant of their bilking practices.
Where is the bulk of said money coming from?
Who's paying for it?
What has been done to date and where is the hard evidence to support the claim the earth is indeed round.
.. Let them use what ever they have accumulated from the stupid to go after Trump not one penny for this bag of con.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:23 AM   #3
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Actually none of that money is going anywhere. Those are empty promises and I think it was really just negotiation tactics. Promises to provide funding but people knew that the UN cannot manage these things well at all because dodgy places are basically incapable of being responsible with other peoples money.

Most nations are doing their own thing.

The US is better off on investing just in the United States for their own communities.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:28 AM   #4
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So what happens now is each country trying to achieve the Paris goal in their own way without going through the UN but still achieving the goal.


P>S None of these NGO green groups have any money for the developing world. It's bullshit.
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One of the problems with the environmental movement to develop emerging and developing nations as environmentally safe and viable economies is that they never did it. and I don't think they ever wanted to.
They'd make more money with failure.
The environmental advocacy of the UN and the established industrial nations has failed miserably over decades.
The prime example of this failure is China.
40 years ago, when China started their economic expansion, everybody was telling them to not use established carbon based industries.
In the short term it would be expensive, but in the long term it would be much cheaper to maintain and advance. India, and certain African and South American nations were also told this.
Now, China, as one of the many established industrial nations, to transition to an environmentally neutral economy will cost them huge amounts of money. Just like it will North America, Europe, Russia, Japan, and certain other nations.

Each developed nation should pay for their own transition, and the UN and IMF and IMB should fund the infrastructure of developing and emerging nations only.
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So what happens now is each country trying to achieve the Paris goal in their own way without going through the UN but still achieving the goal.


P>S None of these NGO green groups have any money for the developing world. It's bullshit.
That's not true beuwolf. Eco groups and Green groups are rolling in money. They need that money to spend on lobbyists, propaganda, even elementary texts and workbooks that spew their propaganda.

You're kidding yourself if you think green groups are either a) doing anything for undeveloped nations. They all know it's a hopeless cause and the most they can do is bribe some officials to more or less affect an outcome. b) aren't demanding regularly the money these governments are voting to give them. The entire point to the green movement from the very beginning, even before climate change, was to put a global tax on developed nations that would transfer the wealth to undeveloped nations thus "leveling the playing field". The whole reason for existence for the green movement is to attack capitalist nations by forcing them to share the wealth with poorer, darker people.
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And how it the money to be used .. exactly?
Every time we gave the UN money for something we ended up feeding and medicating the warring factions while NATO shows up for the photo op and stays out of it.
Now they want to sell it as this tripe to a generation that is ignorant of their bilking practices.
Where is the bulk of said money coming from?
Who's paying for it?
What has been done to date and where is the hard evidence to support the claim the earth is indeed round.
.. Let them use what ever they have accumulated from the stupid to go after Trump not one penny for this bag of con.
A few years ago, I made a thread questioning Coca Cola's "homes for polar bears" advertising campaign. I basically asked how Coca Cola was going to create more ice flows because that's what adult polar bears live on. Of course, we all knew, what Coca Cola really meant, was that they were going to give a bucket full of money to envirowackos who were going to lobby congress for more taxpayer spending, probably on climate change, but nothing was going to actually be done to create more ice flows in the arctic.

I think the same thing here. Nothing these NGOs do is going to actually affect anything. They're just going to lobby, protest, say stuff and it's mostly aimed at separating the American worker for their own income.

btw.....the polar bear population is booming and has been booming for over twenty years now.
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That's not true beuwolf. Eco groups and Green groups are rolling in money. They need that money to spend on lobbyists, propaganda, even elementary texts and workbooks that spew their propaganda.

You're kidding yourself if you think green groups are either a) doing anything for undeveloped nations. They all know it's a hopeless cause and the most they can do is bribe some officials to more or less affect an outcome. b) aren't demanding regularly the money these governments are voting to give them. The entire point to the green movement from the very beginning, even before climate change, was to put a global tax on developed nations that would transfer the wealth to undeveloped nations thus "leveling the playing field". The whole reason for existence for the green movement is to attack capitalist nations by forcing them to share the wealth with poorer, darker people.
I don't think NGOs do that much that isn't undone anyway by many undeveloped nations rogue elements whether it is saving the rhino, the lion or saving a rainforest. Still they have good intent.

That's not saying some NGOs don't just use the environmental cause for Marxist purposes. (There are some like that but it's not all like you seem to claim).

Green doesn't mean left or right it is pro-survival.

Some groups use it to support their broader political agenda that's all.
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I don't think NGOs do that much that isn't undone anyway by many undeveloped nations rogue elements whether it is saving the rhino, the lion or saving a rainforest. Still they have good intent.

That's not saying some NGOs don't just use the environmental cause for Marxist purposes. (There are some like that but it's not all like you seem to claim).

Green doesn't mean left or right it is pro-survival.
Show me an international green group that isn't watermelon.....that is, green on the outside and red on the inside. Show me one example.
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btw.....the polar bear population is booming and has been booming for over twenty years now.
Polar bears are being replaced by brown bears as the sea ice is reduced.

Polar bears need sea ice to hunt seals.

In truth there have not been reliable numbers of polar bears on record.

https://polarbearsinternational.org/...-fact-booming/
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