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Old 04-10-2018, 05:43 PM   #41
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Morality is an illusion caused by a full stomach
That is the response that I would expect from such a primitive primate.
Thanks for confirming it.

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Old 04-10-2018, 05:51 PM   #42
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You can categorize people any way you wish. Victors and vanquished breaks it down most relevantly to me. Frankly I already take everything you so tediously elaborate as a given. However, ethics are irrelevant absent survival IMO.



Exactly adapto. Ethics come after breakfast for almost everyone.
The Morality of Survival is the prerequisite ethics that actually insures and ensures survival in the first place.
As is usual with all such primitive primates like you is that you almost always do put the cart before the horse!
Almost "every primitive primate chimp", that is, and just not any of the actually far more advanced primates or
for true Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

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Old 04-11-2018, 03:57 AM   #43
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The Morality of Survival is the prerequisite ethics that actually insures and ensures survival in the first place.
As is usual with all such primitive primates like you is that you almost always do put the cart before the horse!
Almost "every primitive primate chimp", that is, and just not any of the actually far more advanced primates or
for true Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
See my signature referring to the fate of so many "men of quality". Remember that Cicero was killed at a much lesser man's (Mark Antony's) order, and that his dismembered hands were nailed to the door of the Senate. If you want to drink hemlock while you crow about the mightiness and majesty of noble thoughts, as did Socrates, know that the crowd will watch you swallow down the very last draught and then go home. They will not rally. We did not prevail in the Pacific and European theaters of WWII because we were "true" Homo Sapiens Sapiens... whatever the hell that appellation "true" is supposed to mean, apart from the assertion that there are supposedly unique examples that conform to your point, excluding those which do not... Our opponents were also "true" Homo Sapiens Sapiens. We won because victors do what it takes to win and the vanquished either don't or can't. Moral virtue has as much a role in darwinian survival as willpower has in Bernoulli's Equation: none.

Survival is the prerequisite to moral virtue. Truly, the moral man must survive if his morality is to matter the most.
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See my signature referring to the fate of so many "men of quality". Remember that Cicero was killed at a much lesser man's (Mark Antony's) order, and that his dismembered hands were nailed to the door of the Senate. If you want to drink hemlock while you crow about the mightiness and majesty of noble thoughts, as did Socrates, know that the crowd will watch you swallow down the very last draught and then go home. They will not rally. We did not prevail in the Pacific and European theaters of WWII because we were "true" Homo Sapiens Sapiens... whatever the hell that appellation "true" is supposed to mean, apart from the assertion that there are supposedly unique examples that conform to your point, excluding those which do not... Our opponents were also "true" Homo Sapiens Sapiens. We won because victors do what it takes to win and the vanquished either don't or can't. Moral virtue has as much a role in darwinian survival as willpower has in Bernoulli's Equation: none.

Survival is the prerequisite to moral virtue. Truly, the moral man must survive if his morality is to matter the most.
How deceptively moral, can't get more moral than that, can we? Humans have more than fifty shades of victory. One thing is for sure liars win all the time, aka embellished, we are that vain.
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How deceptively moral, can't get more moral than that, can we? Humans have more than fifty shades of victory. One thing is for sure liars win all the time, aka embellished, we are that vain.
We are all descendants of victors who planted their seed before fate turned them into the vanquished. Some were moral, some were cowards, but only the victorious passed on their culture and through that narrative they tell the children what happened. The Aztec's descendants pray to the Virgin of Guadalupe, while the temples to Tlaloc and Quetzalcoatl are empty. They speak english in the South Pacific, not Japanese, and free market capitalism rules the Land Of The Rising Sun, not bushido.
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We are all descendants of victors who planted their seed before fate turned them into the vanquished. Some were moral, some were cowards, but only the victorious passed on their culture and through that narrative they tell the children what happened. The Aztec's descendants pray to the Virgin of Guadalupe, while the temples to Tlaloc and Quetzalcoatl are empty. They speak english in the South Pacific, not Japanese, and free market capitalism rules the Land Of The Rising Sun, not bushido.
Not "fate".
Cosmic Karma.
Cause and Effect.

Only immoral and amoral liars like you cause all such dispossession, vanquishing, and all tyranny by force.
Victory is always fleeting when it is all based upon only lies and the injustices and on empire and ignorance.
Truth always triumphs given enough time, as it is eternal, while your and all lies are as mortal as you are too.

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Not "fate".
Cosmic Karma.
Cause and Effect.

Only immoral and amoral liars like you cause all such dispossession, vanquishing, and all tyranny by force.
Victory is always fleeting when it is all based upon only lies and the injustices and on empire and ignorance.
Truth always triumphs given enough time, as it is eternal, while your and all lies are as mortal as you are too.
Why is it that just like you, the worst cunts of all always start out by moralizing about pure motives, noble goals, and the worthiness of their "true" cause? Are you waiting for your own 'cosmic karma' to descend on you any day now from the horrific evils that your ancestors perpetrated successfully, leaving you to live the victorious, comfortable life that you're leading? No, you're looking forward to your next vacation, pontificating about worthiness and moral purity while generations of unborn Native Americans never got the same chance because their ancestors were wiped out by our ancestors. But of course you're not considering that because you take your peoples' success for granted. Because you're a self-righteous cunt. Rest assured that lots of Native American survivors see your nice life in a completely different assessment of you 'worthiness' and 'moral rectitude'.

Lies are eternally twisting truth so both are immortal, just as both the good man and the bad man are quite equally mortal. Today, in the here and now, there are only victors and vanquished, the forgiven and the unforgiven. "Deserve's" got nothing to do with it. (Both you and I are proof of that.)


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Why is it that just like you, the worst cunts of all always start out by moralizing about pure motives, noble goals, and the worthiness of their "true" cause? Are you waiting for your own 'cosmic karma' to descend on you any day now from the horrific evils that your ancestors perpetrated successfully, leaving you to live the victorious, comfortable life that you're leading? No, you're looking forward to your next vacation, pontificating about worthiness and moral purity while generations of unborn Native Americans never got the same chance because their ancestors were wiped out by our ancestors. But of course you're not considering that because you take your peoples' success for granted. Because you're a self-righteous cunt. Rest assured that lots of Native American survivors see your nice life in a completely different assessment of you 'worthiness' and 'moral rectitude'.

Lies are eternally twisting truth so both are immortal, just as both the good man and the bad man are quite equally mortal. Today, in the here and now, there are only victors and vanquished, the forgiven and the unforgiven. "Deserve's" got nothing to do with it. (Both you and I are proof of that.)


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Nope.
I saw the movie.
He "deserved" it.
As will you too!

I disagree.
Lies are mortal.
Truth alone is eternal.
Some Native Americans understand that fact far better than you ever will.
You only speak or post with a forked tongue!

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Old 04-11-2018, 11:13 PM   #49
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Nope.
I saw the movie.
He "deserved" it.
As will you too!

I disagree.
Lies are mortal.
Truth alone is eternal.
Some Native Americans understand that fact far better than you ever will.
Oh please!
Spare us the mysticism guru Parnitzke
The universe is indifferent your truth, your suffering, your mortality and the inevitable eventual extinction of your sorry ass
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Oh please!
Spare us the mysticism guru Parnitzke
The universe is indifferent your truth, your suffering, your mortality and the inevitable eventual extinction of your sorry ass
Indeed, impersonal but not "indifferent".
As is usual, you have no real clue at all.
Such a primitive primate.

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