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Old 03-17-2011, 01:54 PM   #11
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Yes sell it all, and change name to Little turkey :P your army is useless. Next war we will see the dutch forces charge on bicycles.
We used bicycle patrols in Afghanistan and Iraq .. Speaking of Turks we have our own version of the skogturk.. I will link it to you when I am home because I am now o. My iPhone sitting in a train to the Hague lol
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:54 PM   #12
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I would agree but I get a dejavu when I compare the situation the 20's and 30's.. I'd rather be safe than sorry, sorry.
yeah cause 30 tanks would have made a difference in the 30s :P

Haha awesome send me the skogsturk haha
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:56 PM   #13
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Looking at your neighbours, I just don't see who would threaten your sovereignity, even in a distant future.
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I yawn at the prospect of a war within our western sphere. Given the economical dependencies, the dozens and dozens of foreign investors including state investors, all of it is effectively keeping any notions of war far from any thoughts. Your own government would have to really fuck up and provide ample reasons for conflicts. Then there is the relations in general, at this point in our time it would be like firing on our own countrymen. And of course we have the storage of nuclear weapons and US bases here and there in Europe, which is a deterrent all by itself. Shall i continue ?
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:58 PM   #14
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:00 PM   #15
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well like I said before I'd rather be safe than sorry.. I'd rather rely and learn from events in the past than rely on some new 'theory' or expectation. We're a small country with much to lose.
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well like I said before I'd rather be safe than sorry.. I'd rather rely and learn from events in the past than rely on some new 'theory' or expectation. We're a small country with much to lose.
I'm not saying that one shouldnt be armed to defend oneself, but for a country like Netherlands in these modern times, having allies and good relations as presently is the best and perhaps the only means to preserve peace. I don't see how the Netherlands could defend itself against any country bigger than Denmark for more than days.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:22 PM   #17
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I'm not saying that one shouldnt be armed to defend oneself, but for a country like Netherlands in these modern times, having allies and good relations as presently is the best and perhaps the only means to preserve peace. I don't see how the Netherlands could defend itself against any country bigger than Denmark for more than days.
Risk vs. Reward
You see.. you are looking at the size of my country. Country = small but our
Military was strong and is now beginning weaker and weaker eversince they killed drafting. The smaller you are the better you need to be at defending yourself. Bees are only little but you won't stick your hands in a beehive to reach the huney.. It's like saying "why lock your door when anyone with a screwdriver can get in?".
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:51 PM   #18
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Risk vs. Reward
You see.. you are looking at the size of my country. Country = small but our
Military was strong and is now beginning weaker and weaker eversince they killed drafting. The smaller you are the better you need to be at defending yourself. Bees are only little but you won't stick your hands in a beehive to reach the huney.. It's like saying "why lock your door when anyone with a screwdriver can get in?".
Same here, not particulary large population but we used to have the 5th largest air fleet in the world and a million foot during the cold war. Now we're down to a few regiments overall that are transformed and trained to conduct quick deployments abroad if needed. Well at least i think that the future lies in open societies with good relations more than anything else. There's more and graver issues with internal threats than external these days.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:17 PM   #19
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I guess it was the only way they could afford to prosecute all those pedophiles.
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You've still got the cavalry, the archers, and over a dozen fire cannons.

FFS ... just throw your wooden shoes at 'em ... or woo them with cheese.

I just hope they keep the pigeons. Reliable communication is vital *punches war desk*
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