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Old 01-14-2016, 01:59 AM   #1
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ex-...eech/ar-CCvR7i

I only got 3, but they describe my service.
for what little they mean, I am proud of them.

This ruling offends me, for all the dedicated soldier and sailors that have earned the right to display the honors they have earned.
This judge should be impeached for violation of the separation of the powers of state; and misfeasance of the oath of office.
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Old 01-14-2016, 02:06 AM   #2
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Right, really pisses me off, plus now it just stands to reason, you must see a DD214 on everyone to make sure they're not a faker. Unfortunately people lie, had a couple over the years come to the local VFW requesting assistance, when asked for a DD214, they never came back.
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Old 01-14-2016, 02:39 AM   #3
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This judge is simply wrong, A medal is not some vague, elective "message" that its wearer chooses unilaterally to declare. A medal's sole significance is that its bearer has earned the right to wear it as a sign that the powers entitled to award those medals have decided that the bearer merits it. Without merit recognized by the awarding authority, the medal is, as BurntBulb says, meaningless...and the message become illegitimate

I do wonder if the judge is a liberal ex hippie who has graduated into the power bearing generation after a few decades, bringing his anti-establishment attitude with him. It's a phenomenon showing itself all over. No better way to take an opponent's power than to discredit it with farce.

What deeds did this joker achieve to justify this christmas tree he's wearing ffs?
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:11 AM   #4
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:14 AM   #5
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What deeds did this joker achieve to justify this christmas tree he's wearing ffs?
I think one is a Ms. Pacman champion metal.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:06 AM   #6
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This totally pisses me off.

And, what the 9th Circuit failed to consider is that not all speech is protected under the 1st Amendment. We all know that!

It is completely within the power of the Court to understand both the intent of the 1st Amendment and the intent of the law making stolen valor illegal and to find that the law is not unconstitutional, just as prohibitions of other narrowly defined types of speech are not unconstitutional.

Shame on the fraud, and shame on the court.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:39 AM   #7
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This is one of those 'principle' issues they'll have to find common ground on.

My thoughts are, if someone is fraudulently claiming they earned a medal/ribbon/what have you to benefit financially or otherwise, that should be a crime. But if they're just wearing medals to 'make a statement' or otherwise exercise free speech or freedom of expression, that right should be protected as well. As ignorant as I find these valor thieves to be, I have to recognize that the rights we enlisted to defend, include the right to free speech and freedom of expression. The 'slippery slope' would come if it were absolutely illegal to wear any medal you didn't earn, and then someone would become irate because they saw a guy wearing a fatigue jacket with say, a master sergeant's insignia. Then it would be argued that the guy didn't earn those stripes, how can he be allowed to wear them on a coat? This would inevitably trickle down to NYPD getting pissed because everyone is wearing their initialism on hats and stuff like that.

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Old 01-14-2016, 07:10 AM   #8
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:40 PM   #10
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