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Old 02-28-2018, 02:28 PM   #11
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Which religion hasn't been highjacked ?
Those religions that are based on seeking knowledge and wisdom and put man above imaginary Gods.

Some Buddhist sects, Karaite Jewry and Gnostic Christians come to mind.

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Old 02-28-2018, 02:32 PM   #12
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What are ya gonna do...start acting like Henry VIII, or Cromwell, or Mohamed, or Lenin, or Mao, or any other of the persecutors of theologies or religions that you don't like or don't fit your own self-serving beliefs?

As for the civil crimes, specifically financial crimes, the government is not 'quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters'. Just off the top of my head, ever heard of Bernie Madoff?

Here a reasonable list about religious crimes, but it only covers recent times:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cted_of_crimes

Also a site with some sound advice, and some good links at the bottom:

http://www.religion-info.com/religiousfraud.html
I think we should all start acting like we have the Golden Rule as our first moral tenet.

That would have us want to help the victims of the religious fraudsters and try to help the gullible religious victims think better.

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Old 02-28-2018, 05:58 PM   #13
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I have been busy elsewhere with move astute people than here.

Which of my self-delusion are you referring to?

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Sure.
I can not say that I blame you.
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Old 02-28-2018, 06:17 PM   #14
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I think we should all start acting like we have the Golden Rule as our first moral tenet.

That would have us want to help the victims of the religious fraudsters and try to help the gullible religious victims think better.

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I disagree.
The Morality of Survival always should be our first moral tenet.
The Golden Rule applies all or only within that primary context.

You must first learn to think better yourself before you begin teaching any others.
Also, you can not reason something out of someone that was not reasoned into it in the first place.
That especially goes for the gullible that mistake superstition for religion.
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Old 03-03-2018, 01:45 AM   #15
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

United States Bill Of Rights Amendment I
(Created: September 25, 1789 Ratified: December 15, 1791)
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Old 03-03-2018, 05:39 AM   #16
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Old 03-03-2018, 05:54 AM   #17
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

United States Bill Of Rights Amendment I
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Hence, thus, and therefore

Fuck off Canada

Trump is building the wall along the wrong border

We don't need any helpful bright ideas from these indoor snow monkeys

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Should fraudulent governments out regulate their nearest competition?

You're delving into diminished returns there.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

United States Bill Of Rights Amendment I
(Created: September 25, 1789 Ratified: December 15, 1791)
The Second Amendment is what actually protects and ensures the rest of the Bill of Rights:
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"Second Amendment
Main article:
Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."[92]

The Second Amendment protects the individual right to keep and bear arms. The concept of such a right existed within English common law long before the enactment of the Bill of Rights.[97] First codified in the English Bill of Rights of 1689 (but there only applying to Protestants), this right was enshrined in fundamental laws of several American states during the Revolutionary era, including the 1776 Virginia Declaration of Rights and the Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776. Long a controversial issue in American political, legal, and social discourse, the Second Amendment has been at the heart of several Supreme Court decisions.

In United States v. Cruikshank (1875), the Court ruled that "[t]he right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second Amendment means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government."[98]

In United States v. Miller (1939), the Court ruled that the amendment "[protects arms that had a] reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia".[99]

In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment "codified a pre-existing right" and that it "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home" but also stated that "the right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose".[100]

In McDonald v. Chicago (2010),[101] the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.[102]"
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