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Old 08-22-2017, 09:14 PM   #21
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Apparently its the job of those who have their shit together, to pay for those who dont. While this might be acceptable when it comes to looking after your own people in dire need, that invitation has never been extended outside of our borders, except by people who dont have to deal with consequences directly.

If they cant help themselves there, what makes you liberal cunts think we should help them here?
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:24 PM   #22
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Apparently its the job of those who have their shit together, to pay for those who dont. While this might be acceptable when it comes to looking after your own people in dire need, that invitation has never been extended outside of our borders, except by people who dont have to deal with consequences directly.

If they cant help themselves there, what makes you liberal cunts think we should help them here?
lost the argument at that point.
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:30 PM   #23
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lost the argument at that point.
Not exactly.
Take out the "personal insult" and it is spot on and factual.
Only that in bold was a logical fallacy.
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Old 08-23-2017, 10:35 PM   #24
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Whats it gonna take for these open border idiots to finally 'get it'. I mean seriously, how many terrorist attacks must happen, how many more people have to die. Anyone who is still supporting open borders, is simply caught in the leftist echo chamber. These people are ridiculous. It should be obvious, but no. Some people are still ignorant as hell.
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How typical. A straightforward statement about open border policy being questionable turns into a quibblefest over which kind of borders is being addressed: external borders, internal borders, international borders, county/state/provincial/municipal/geographic/etc., ad nauseum.

Let's talk about the various categories of borders, the relative sizes of prison populations from China to Finland, and Wales to Hungary, and then devolve into the relative merits of various prison system arrangements so we can end up talking about anything except how the external borders of the EU ought not be open to unregulated immigrant/refugee movement, and how open borders within the Schengen Area enable movement of terrorists for criminal purposes with decreased probability that they will be identified and/or caught by law enforcement.

Islamic terrorism is a fabrication of racist xenophobes, open borders make things more convenient, and that's all there is to it. WTF would an Israeli know about how best to combat terrorism anyways, right? We're Europeans, they're Jews, so......we don't have to talk about islamic terror anymore, see?
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Barcelona terror cell’s ideological leader was an asylum seeker!!

The imam who led the Barcelona terror cell was supposed to be expelled from Spain in 2014, but he received clemency.


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How typical. A straightforward statement about open border policy being questionable turns into a quibblefest over which kind of borders is being addressed: external borders, internal borders, international borders, county/state/provincial/municipal/geographic/etc., ad nauseum.

Let's talk about the various categories of borders, the relative sizes of prison populations from China to Finland, and Wales to Hungary, and then devolve into the relative merits of various prison system arrangements so we can end up talking about anything except how the external borders of the EU ought not be open to unregulated immigrant/refugee movement, and how open borders within the Schengen Area enable movement of terrorists for criminal purposes with decreased probability that they will be identified and/or caught by law enforcement.

Islamic terrorism is a fabrication of racist xenophobes, open borders make things more convenient, and that's all there is to it. WTF would an Israeli know about how best to combat terrorism anyways, right? We're Europeans, they're Jews, so......we don't have to talk about islamic terror anymore, see?
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Old 08-24-2017, 05:33 AM   #28
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Barcelona terror cell’s ideological leader was an asylum seeker!!

The imam who led the Barcelona terror cell was supposed to be expelled from Spain in 2014, but he received clemency.


https://worldisraelnews.com/barcelon...46-200x140_jpg

12 lone wolf terrorists happen to be working together and attending the same mosque?

Must be blowback from right wing racism. Better let another four or five million islamic refugees in to reduce the chances of this kind of thing happening again. I've heard that the benefits of open borders outweigh the costs, so what the hell, why not?.

Clemency is a wonderful thing. It allows a person to sidestep the consequences of whatever crimes they may have committed, so that they can get on with their other life's works. Just because a refugee dealt drugs, raped some kids, assaulted a few people on a tram, or burned a few vehicles in a riot doesn't mean that they should be deported. Deporting them makes it impossible to contribute to Europe's culture and society in the future, and that's just not fair. Clemency is the answer.
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lost the argument at that point.
That was just anger/frustration. I know when im talking to a brick wall.

As lucid as i find these 'discussions' i think the damage has been done, and we are going to watch our lands turn into the 3rd world. No amount of secular proselytizing on my part will change that very large 'god' fearing demographic that offers current politics the most votes.
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:01 PM   #30
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lost the argument at that point.
You've lost the argument when the umteenth mass murder has just occurred, or when your fuzzy math boils down to needing 5+5 to equal 55 in order to pay for all the programs. But do continue to use the brick wall metaphor, as it is so apt a description of the progressive resistance to accepting the results of their policies.

ANTIFA can riot and assault peaceful demonstrators and that's righteous social justice, but let someone mention the 'liberal cunts' who support them and "hah! they've lost the argument..." So progressive activists are free to riot and brawl, but others must remain polite and nice to be legitimate. It's double standard horseshit.
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