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Old 03-08-2013, 09:41 PM   #171
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Wrong. In fact, the hardest thing is to organize atheists. It's like herding cats. One thing is for sure though. There is no metaphysical and there is an understanding of science and nature. That is the only commonality.

Oh yeah... we have a problem with this virgin birth thingy too.
Metaphysics according to Aristotle is the queen of the sciences. It defines what exists as opposed to what is merely a human conception of what exists. for example if atomic reductionism is true, then only atoms exist, but not chairs, tables, cars, lifeforms and other combinations of atoms that would be mere psychological constructs projected onto atoms. Modern atheism, or rather the conservative militant Dawkins brand is choked full of metaphysical dogmatic assumptions that are unquestionably adopted from folk psychology and that indeed are largely inbuilt in the human faculty for language and cognition, and employed when they draw default conclusions
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:26 AM   #172
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Metaphysics according to Aristotle is the queen of the sciences. It defines what exists as opposed to what is merely a human conception of what exists. for example if atomic reductionism is true, then only atoms exist, but not chairs, tables, cars, lifeforms and other combinations of atoms that would be mere psychological constructs projected onto atoms. Modern atheism, or rather the conservative militant Dawkins brand is choked full of metaphysical dogmatic assumptions that are unquestionably adopted from folk psychology and that indeed are largely inbuilt in the human faculty for language and cognition, and employed when they draw default conclusions
Was that a Strawman Argument or are you happy to see me?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:44 AM   #173
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ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

Atheists consistently attempt to take the higher ground by pointing fingers of accusation at theists and accusing theists of committing all sorts of human rights violations in the name of "cultish religions," as they are fond of putting it. According to atheists, it is the belief in God that has caused people to commit the various atrocities common to mankind. Remove religion, belief in God, and belief in the Bible--the atheists argue--and the world will be a better place. This latter conclusion is mortally flawed for the following reasons:

1. Atheists have committed human rights violations en masse throughout history. For instance, Joseph Stalin--the atheist--ordered the deaths of between 40 million to 62 million people (20 million of which were everyday Soviet civilians), compared to the 6 million Jews in addition to the other 3 million or so killed by Adolph Hitler the Roman Catholic "Christian."

In other words, the problem is not the Bible or God and The problem is people, including those in false religions which have failed to teach the masses Biblical truths. An appreciation for Biblical truths and Jehovah's righteous standards of what's right and what's wrong is the only detriment against people committing human rights violations. Blaming God for the crimes of false Christiansis an attempt at passing the buck.

"See! This only I have found, that the true God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many plans." (Ecclesiastes 7:29)

"They have acted ruinously on their own part; they are not his children, the defect is their own. A generation crooked and twisted!" (Deuteronomy 32:5)


2. Atheism is itself a religion. While atheist will argue that they don't believe in any god and therefore, in their minds, they are therefore not in a religion, the issue is not merely non-belief in God or gods but in having ANY sort of belief system that is of vital importance to the person. The belief system of atheism is centered around the philosophy of "Secular-Humanism."


3. Atheism is a religion according to a 2005 Wisconsin federal court ruling as well as the 1961 U.S. Supreme Court—the highest court in the USA. U.S. Supreme Court rulings become national law.



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For instance, Joseph Stalin--the atheist--ordered the deaths of between 40 million to 62 million people (20 million of which were everyday Soviet civilians), compared to the 6 million Jews in addition to the other 3 million or so killed byAdolph Hitler "the Roman Catholic" "Christian."
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In other words, the problem is not the Bible or God (i.e. the KJV or her Cafflik hatin' God, that is) and The problem is people, including those in false religions (the Satanic Caffliks, who else?!!) which have failed to teach the masses Biblical (KJV, of course!) truths. An appreciation for Biblical truths and Jehovah's (that would be Luther's Jew hatin' Germanic Jehovah, natrurally ) righteous (she means reicheous) standards of what's right and what's wrong is the only detriment against people committing human rights violations. Blaming God for the crimes of false Christians (fer fuck sake, it's them Christ denyin' Caffliks again!) is an attempt at passing the buck.

HEAP IT ON 'EM, SISTER HANNAH! Goddayum them purblind, totally intolarint, bigetted athyusts and their Roamin Cafflik, Virgin Mary fucking, fellow travelers!

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Old 03-23-2013, 12:06 PM   #174
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Metaphysics according to Aristotle is the queen of the sciences. It defines what exists as opposed to what is merely a human conception of what exists. for example if atomic reductionism is true, then only atoms exist, but not chairs, tables, cars, lifeforms and other combinations of atoms that would be mere psychological constructs projected onto atoms. Modern atheism, or rather the conservative militant Dawkins brand is choked full of metaphysical dogmatic assumptions that are unquestionably adopted from folk psychology and that indeed are largely inbuilt in the human faculty for language and cognition, and employed when they draw default conclusions
As soon as you start defending a point of view it becomes an ideal, ideals are the basis of all religions, including modern day Atheism, which isn't real Atheism, it is now the name of a religion that believes there is no deity.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:45 AM   #175
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ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

For the time being, I will retract the portion about the Religion of Atheism being allowed tax benefits. It seems the IRS refused to give it to them, although the atheists tried to get it. However, the remainder of what I previously stated is accurate. Atheists have no problem using their religion status when it suits their purposes, as follows.

1. To get their own chaplains and distribute their literature.
2. To conscientiously object to war based upon their religious status


But when they want to promote their atheist ideology (evolution theory) in schools, they claim they are not a religion. The case of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District resulted when theists filed a lawsuit saying atheists were teaching their religious ideology (evolution theory) in schools, while theists are not permitted to discuss Genesis creation in the very same school. The judge ruled in the atheists' favor and insisted they could continue teaching evolution theory. Most likely, the judge was an atheist or, at a minimum, an atheist sympathizer.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:01 AM   #176
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Alterego2. Out of curiosity, are you a Jehovah's Witness? Only you quote scripture that's directly translated from the 'New World Translation', a bible often scorned at by bible Scholars as being a highly perverted translation intended to back up the Witnesses own beliefs, you use 'terms' such as 'true religion' and you mention 'Jehovah' in your first post.
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