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Old 02-24-2013, 03:35 PM   #81
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There's nothing illegal about being a member of a cult. I have a cult in my community and I fucking hate them but I don't think they should all be burned up.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:51 PM   #82
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Listen here my paranoid American chums, the Branch Davidians had 51 days to let the women and children go it never happened, that scumbag carHAzzy motherfucker "The Lamb" Koresh used them as a human shield...now I cant tell you how many times I've heard one of you wingnuts say personal responsibility when it comes to gun massacres or he should have listened to the officer before the policed kill yet another hapless victim...try and keep it consistent and stop flip flopping across the universe
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:02 PM   #83
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You can't just dismiss the actions of our gov at Waco simply because you and some others deem them cray cray.

And I'm not saying that they were not, I simply defend them because they were living breathing beings and the gov doesn't have the right to just snuff them out.
I would normally argue that the ATF/Cult factor of this story were uniquely American in origin/nature.

However, I have cousins trapped in the Exclusive Brethren on my cult luvin' island. We haven't devised tear gas deploying equipment. In fact, we have apparently accepted them, they are five generations deep in madness.

The facts I'm trying to convey come from within the Branch Davidian cult compound ... not an ad-hoc compilation of perceived evil goons from the government.

INSIDE the compound ... they were ready to die. They were making some anti-authority statement. They took their kids with them.

In this particular case ... right or wrong ... all the government was was a brick wall upon which David Koresh slammed his community into like a truck at 150 miles per hour.

The cops in swat gear had a day job.

The cult devotee's had a death wish.

How can you possibly equate the two as equal?

Ask yourself (honestly) .. who held their own kids hostage for months on end? For a dude who claimed himself to be Jesus?

Who is to blame for that bat-shit crazy mentality? The government, or the people?
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:06 PM   #84
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Quick run to the log cabin the guvmit is after you
"Move along...nothing to see here....move along folks..."

(no worries, we'll paint them all as religious nutjobs, and the sheep will turn a blind eye to the fact that we sent used tanks, machineguns, and noxious gas to exterminate them. "We were saving the children"...they buy that line every time. LOL)

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:19 PM   #85
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Quick run to the log cabin the guvmit is after you
You're not safe out there either. Remember Ruby Ridge where an FBI sniper shot a woman through the mouth while standing on her porch holding her baby?
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We're from the government, and we're here to help....FUCK YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's the cue to run away.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:31 PM   #87
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:11 PM   #88
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Little brother is in 3rd ACR at Hood. They just switched over from Bradleys to Strykers.
Yep, the 3rd ACR (3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, aka 3rd Cav) was moved from Ft Bliss to Ft Hood sometime in the lat 90's I think.
So your little brother and I were in the same unit
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:02 PM   #89
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If you sieve through footage THEY released it shows the truth, and just little things like guys shooting themselves, it was planned and rehearsed for months.

But I believe the most damning evidence in in the congress meeting or whatever it was, that's where the interesting business is. (if you have watched and studied events).

I'm know conspiracy type, but shit went down on this one, and I also believe they modified techniques based on fuck ups here, how to handle media etc..
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