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Old 04-16-2018, 12:04 AM   #21
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:00 AM   #22
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Its free in private schools, but you're right, in public schools, it's not (I went to both), although they probably coulda gotten a dollar from friends and gotten something from the vending machine or talked to a teacher about their situation or had a friend bring them some food.

Yeah the kids were just a paycheck to them.

A neighbor called CPS after Devonte kept coming over to ask for food, said he was being punished and his moms were withholding food as punishment. Soon after, CPS came to the door, but no one answered and then the next day they took off in their car. CPS shoulda waited until someone eventually opened the door bc at some point, they're gonna have to leave the house for something!
They would have been eligible for free breakfast and lunch at school because the family was on state assistance.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:03 PM   #23
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They would have been eligible for free breakfast and lunch at school because the family was on state assistance.
Oh ok, well then all the more reason.
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Aquina, I never got a chance to fully read what you wrote bc I was super tired last night, but from what I remember, you asked if homeschooling is all I took from this story. My answer is no, I can see that there are other issues at play - the foster system, child abuse, etc.

But every time I read stories like this, about horrible child abuse, whether the kid is biologically theirs or adopted, they are always homeschooled. They are not always in foster care, they are not always interracial, they are not always lesbians, but they are always homeschooled and the family often moves frequently, often after others report signs of abuse.

I also read in another article that these kids attended regular school until 6 years ago, when of the kids came to school with bruises on her stomach and said she got it from her mom. The teacher reported it and the mom plead guilty to assault. A week after it was reported, they pulled their kids out of school and enrolled them in homeschooling. Wonder why

Read this, the Hart family fit a familiar pattern https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/04/13/us/...ion/index.html

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Old 04-16-2018, 04:14 PM   #25
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Its free in private schools, but you're right, in public schools, it's not (I went to both), although they probably coulda gotten a dollar from friends and gotten something from the vending machine or talked to a teacher about their situation or had a friend bring them some food.
I guess it varies by State, because charter and private schools out here don't do free lunches, only public schools do.

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Yeah the kids were just a paycheck to them.
System failed them, it's obvious to anyone looking at this...and why allow them to keep them after they got convicted for hitting them?

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A neighbor called CPS after Devonte kept coming over to ask for food, said he was being punished and his moms were withholding food as punishment. Soon after, CPS came to the door, but no one answered and then the next day they took off in their car. CPS shoulda waited until someone eventually opened the door bc at some point, they're gonna have to leave the house for something!
Did he look skinny tho, like he was starving or was he just trying to bulk up? eating at home and asking for food
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Home schooling isn't the problem, nor did they actually home school those kids.

their parents didn't tell the state they were home schooling them like they're supposed to, also they're supposed to take yearly tests which they weren't doing. So to place the blame on home schooling even partially is not right imo
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Home schooling isn't the problem, nor did they actually home school those kids.

their parents didn't tell the state they were home schooling them like they're supposed to, also they're supposed to take yearly tests which they weren't doing. So to place the blame on home schooling even partially is not right imo
I'm not just blaming homeschooling. It's just one of many reasons I don't agree with it. i think it's too isolating - physically, socially, mentally. Kids aren't just at school to learn academics, they're also there to make friends and learn how to socialize with their peers, since at the end of the day, social skills matter a lot more in life than whether you can pass an algebra test, IMO.

Maybe in this case, the parents weren't following the law with homeschooling, but in other cases, they are, but they still abuse the kids and end up on the news for something awful, like his family. The "homeschool" option is how they were able to get around taking their kids to school, it was an easy crutch, if neighbors wonder why the kids aren't in school, they can just say, "oh, we homeschool them."

The homeschool option seems to attract parents who are prone to this kinda thing, IMO.

Agreed there are other factors in play, tho, mainly that the state shouldn't have allowed this couple to keep any of the kids after one of them was convicted of assaulting one of the children.
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I guess it varies by State, because charter and private schools out here don't do free lunches, only public schools do.

System failed them, it's obvious to anyone looking at this...and why allow them to keep them after they got convicted for hitting them?

Did he look skinny tho, like he was starving or was he just trying to bulk up? eating at home and asking for food
I don't know what he looked like when he was coming over to ask for food. But the photo you posted earlier was from 3 years ago, when the kids were younger, so maybe they used other discipline tactics when they were younger. You can't beat or restrain a 15 year old boy, at least 2 women can't, he's gonna be bigger and stronger than them, by that point. So the only thing they can do is withhold things, like food.

If he was allowed access to food and trying to bulk up, he coulda done that at home and he probably wouldn't have gone to the neighbors house, as that's kind of a weird thing to do. Very weird, actually.
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Neglect and abuse happens in public schools, how many black kids go directly from public school to prison? Homeschooled kids arent feeding the prison system.
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I think kids who are homeschooled are less likely to pick up the wrong type of social skills. If you think the government knows best for your kid then fine, hand em over.
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