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Old 01-09-2012, 12:26 PM   #11
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There are several basic human rights IMO, one of them being affordable health care for all. Any developed nation not willing to do this cheats their citizens, especially given that most developed nations hand out billions in aid to developing ones.

I could go on, but its past midnight here, and I am wrecked.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:39 PM   #12
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everyone should have free healthcare for essential stuff...we live in the richest countries on the planet...yet dont tax huge corporations or religions....and let people suffer with curable illnesses...which would get them back into the employable bracket...and if it doesnt? isnt a sign of being civilised the way we look after those who are in difficulty?
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and yes i know corporations pay SOME tax...but not what they should...
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:13 PM   #13
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Very easy answer. Because there are more important and pressing issues in which Ron Paul is spot on, i.e. foreign policy and not pandering to banking and corporate elites in charge of government policy. And of course, those issues also affect basic human rights like freedom.
It's pointless worrying about health care while medical, drug and insurance corps dictate health care policy to government.
In short, take care of the basics and core problems first and then worry about the rest.

So basic human rights within the United States take a second, or maybe third seat to foreign policy...isn't that what you're really saying.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:20 PM   #14
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everyone should have free healthcare for essential stuff...we live in the richest countries on the planet...yet dont tax huge corporations or religions....and let people suffer with curable illnesses...which would get them back into the employable bracket...and if it doesnt? isnt a sign of being civilised the way we look after those who are in difficulty?
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and yes i know corporations pay SOME tax...but not what they should...
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:22 PM   #15
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So basic human rights within the United States take a second, or maybe third seat to foreign policy...isn't that what you're really saying.
Nope.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:31 PM   #16
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Socialist !!!!
Right here folks ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ exhibit A
hahahah. i believe in getting back what you and yours put in...
and looking after those less fortunate....
i also believe that taxing the little man 30% of his earnings is criminal if you dont tax the boss at least the same....and any company/religion that can afford to pay huge bonus`s to boss`s when the company is laying workers off...
fuck...i am a socialist! up the workers! power to the people!
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:17 PM   #17
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Great post USA thanks for the heads up on it, I'll post my thoughts when I finish shaking the cobwebs from my head.......think I'll go troll Demon about Jews, that should work.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:32 PM   #18
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Nope.
I think that's the case for those outside the U.S. to be quite honest. Your number one reason for supporting Ron Paul is foreign policy, that's how you can look past his views on basic human rights/health care. The well-being of United States citizens takes a back seat to what you'd otherwise place in the front if it was your homeland. It makes sense, you're not affected by our health care, you are affected by our foreign policy.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:36 PM   #19
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Very easy answer. Because there are more important and pressing issues in which Ron Paul is spot on, i.e. foreign policy and not pandering to banking and corporate elites in charge of government policy. And of course, those issues also affect basic human rights like freedom.
It's pointless worrying about health care while medical, drug and insurance corps dictate health care policy to government.
In short, take care of the basics and core problems first and then worry about the rest.

^^this^^
there isn't a candidate alive that wants everything I want, so you pick the one that is close on most things and work on the others.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:55 PM   #20
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The politician with whom i agree on everthing still has to be invented. As a non American i am of course primarily and almost solely in favour for Ron Paul because of his views in foreign policy.
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