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Old 12-10-2017, 04:51 AM   #1
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We humans have so much moral and ethical arrogance to actually presume to know what extraterrestrials would be like!

https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-disco...hange-morality

This article is a Humanistic discourse of relativistic existence, while ignoring the very simple principle of rational thought and logic.
Simply....WE DON"T KNOW!

Until we have proof of extraterrestrial life, anything we say demonstrates our wilful ignorance, stupidity, vanity, ego, and arrogance.

You make think Fermi's paradox, or drakes equation, are valid expressions of the possibility of extraterrestrial life; but they aren't.
All these formula's, as fancy as they are in their hypothesis, have no data that advances them.

This is the problem with philosophy, it is no longer Kantian, rational or logical. It has become Humanistic, subjective, relativistic.
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Old 12-11-2017, 06:29 AM   #2
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I'd argue Kantian philosophy by it's nature become relativistic because it based that all thesis and anti-thesis have equal weight in the noumena. It goes further and relegates all experience to the phenomena, that is a type of fantism. It's pretty hard to say everything ideological is equal to it's negative corrallary and at the same time, basically say all human experience is a mirage. It makes the world of post modernism (which Immanuel Kant founded), a world where only an ethereal type "balance" can be achieved and all human experience isn't really real. How does one not end up in a quagmire of sentimentalism on one hand, and intellectual crassness on the other?

As evidence, look at the lengths people with means will go to in order to indulge themselves even at the expense of others. In a way, it's the same thing that propels our political leaders to focus more on their legacy in their arrogance, than on actually making prescient good decisions. Anything that centers on "their" experience is worth it because any experience that makes them feel good by that very fact alone is good and worth it. In the same manner, intellectual pursuits have become vulgar power plays of will rather than careful reasoning and a pursuit of truth i.e. reality. If nothing intellectual is really real, why bother even pretending to pursue truth, why not just make it all about the will to power. That's entirely what the climate change and transgender debates have been. There's nothing scientific, it's just a will to power.

Why should any serious paper about aliens or even near Earth asteroids be any different. Once the conclusion has been accepted, that everything comes to end, does it really matter if the end is near or far? The only thing that matters is how much pleasure and pain is it going to cost the subject. On the contrary, the realist has always understood the possibility of the end of existence or the existence of the other, and the realist has always sought practical solutions that don't yield to the thesis/anti-thesis dichotomy but to the answering the How or the Why of it all.
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Old 12-11-2017, 11:03 AM   #3
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I figured believing in god is pretty much the same as believing in aliens, from a fairly young age. Scepticism is much more useful than blind unfounded faith in something. I have faith in other people, which makes sense to me because they are real.

(wow you yanks spell scepticism 'skepticism'. Please stop trying to butcher the english language)
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:58 AM   #4
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AKA when is the right time to do the right thing.

Time to re-calibrate your moral compass.
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