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Old 08-22-2017, 07:09 AM   #1
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The open internal borders are not the problem...
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The open internal borders are not the problem...
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Well, as an example, they are comparable and no more problematic than the (internal) borders between US states - on the other hand the EU external borders are quite different from those of US (land border with just Mexico and Canada + two oceans). I'm not saying the Shengen Area is same as the United States but you get the idea (I hope)...
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Well, as an example, they are comparable and no more problematic than the (internal) borders between US states - on the other hand the EU external borders are quite different from those of US (land border with just Mexico and Canada + two oceans). I'm not saying the Shengen Area is same as the United States but you get the idea (I hope)...
I didnt understand what you said, confused than ever now...
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I didnt understand what you said, confused than ever now...
OK, gimme sec, I'll book a flight to Eilat and explain this in person...
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:37 AM   #7
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The open internal borders are not the problem...
Not to you, but they are the problem.

Nobody has a problem with law abiding people looking for work, its the trash, the criminals, the terrorists who also make use of this freedom of movement that are not worth the price of open borders.

"In the last ten years the number of foreign nationals in prison has doubled and now represents over 14% of the total prison population in England and Wales"

https://www.justice.gov.uk/offenders...fender/foreign

But thats just part and parcel of open borders right? No thanks. And no, the number of british people in foreign prisons has not doubled in the last 10 years....
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Not to you, but they are the problem.

Nobody has a problem with law abiding people looking for work, its the trash, the criminals, the terrorists who also make use of this freedom of movement that are not worth the price of open borders.

"In the last ten years the number of foreign nationals in prison has doubled and now represents over 14% of the total prison population in England and Wales"

https://www.justice.gov.uk/offenders...fender/foreign

But thats just part and parcel of open borders right? No thanks. And no, the number of british people in foreign prisons has not doubled in the last 10 years....
Around 12% of England and Wales prison population are foreign citizens, while they make up about 9% general population but surely they are not all EU citizens. And again, same as in US, I think the advantages of open (internal borders) outweigh the disadvantages. Starting from the ease of traveling in Europe today.

Btw. here in Finland foreign citizens count for 16% of the prison population, and they come from 61 different nationalities.

Edit 2: And again, the underlying cause of "foreign crime" etc. in UK (or anywhere else in EU) is not the "open borders".
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No but it allows 'them' to freely travel between separate jurisdictions with serious language barriers and other constraints that implies. You just seem like you want us to stick our heads in the sand.

And lets not even get into into low wage zone exploitation for the few, and unsustainable immigration into the uk in particular.

When all this human garbage is setting up in your backyard, maybe you will give an actual fuck.

Finland has ~3000 prisoners, how cute...
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