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Old 05-18-2018, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default suspect identified in shooting,Texas' Santa Fe High School

This same old, easily noticeable murder it seems. Hell. this kid come to school wearing a full body length trench coat.Looks like he stole his family's shotgun, and pistol to pull it off. Bight light bulb here. Its fubbin Texas for Christ sake, its like 90 degrees F there now. He is wearing like freezing weather clothes.Did that simple fact ring any bell in anyone's head? Just saying.

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/18/us/te...ing/index.html

Officials identify suspect in shooting that killed 10 at Texas' Santa Fe High School

The shooter at a high school in Texas used a shotgun and a revolver that were legally owned by his father, Gov. Greg Abbott said.
"We need to do more than just pray for the victims and their families. It's time in Texas that we take action to step up and make sure this tragedy is never repeated ever again," Abbott told reporters Friday.
[Previous story, published at 3:06 p.m. ET]
Ten people were killed and ten others injured in a shooting Friday morning at a high school in the southeastern Texas city of Santa Fe, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has confirmed.
Authorities have said two people have been detained in the shooting at Santa Fe High School. Federal law enforcement officials identified one of them as Dimitrios Pagourtzis, and said he is suspected of having fired the shots.
Gunfire erupted at the school, about 20 miles outside Galveston, not long after classes began around 7:30 a.m. CT, officials said. Authorities later found explosive devices -- including pipe bombs and pressure cookers -- in and near the school, the law enforcement official said.
There has been, on average, 1 school shooting every week this year
There has been, on average, 1 school shooting every week this year
A male suspect, believed to be a student, has been arrested in the shooting, and a second person -- also believed to be a student -- has been detained as well, Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said.
The male that Gonzalez described as a suspect is injured, a law enforcement official said on condition of anonymity.
Investigators believe that the second person, an 18-year-old, may be an accomplice but not a shooter, a law enforcement official said.
Live updates on the school shooting
Two law enforcement officers are among the injured, according to a law enforcement source.
One man is in critical condition with a gunshot wound in one of his arms, said David Marshall, chief nursing officer for University of Texas Medical Branch hospital.
This is the 22nd US school shooting since the beginning of the year, and the third instance in eight days in which a gunman was on a school campus.
Witnesses described students running from the school as they heard gunshots; they also described hearing an alarm at the school, though the sequence of events wasn't immediately clear.
Authorities found explosive devices in the high school and in adjacent areas, said Walter Braun, Santa Fe Independent School District police chief. It wasn't immediately clear if any had exploded.

Santa Fe High School junior Guadalupe Sanchez, 16, cries in the arms of her mother, Elida Sanchez, after reuniting with her at a meeting point at a nearby fitness center after Friday's shooting.
Because the devices were found, Braun urged people in the city of about 13,000 people to "not touch any items that look out of place, and call 911" if they see something suspicious.
Investigators Friday afternoon were searching a trailer where they believe the devices were assembled, a law enforcement source said.
The school has been cleared of all students and staff, who have been directed to a nearby facility to reunite with their families, Braun said.
Witness: Shooter fired gun in an art class
An armed person walked into an art class at the school and began firing what looked like a shotgun, a witness told CNN affiliate KTRK.
The witness told KTRK she saw a girl shot in the leg.
At least 13 people from the school were being treated at three hospitals, authorities said. Eight people were at Clear Lake Regional Medical in Webster, Texas; two patients were being treated at Mainland Medical Center in Texas City; and three patients are at John Sealy University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:19 PM   #2
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Sad. I was just thinking we hadn’t had a mass shooting in a while, knew it was only a matter of time
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:29 PM   #3
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I read that he chickened out of committing suicide. He shoulda, it’s Texas, death penalty capital of America, so depending on what county he lives in, they will likely kill him, anyway.
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Get ready for politicians to exploit children for political gain, get ready for the outraged parents of the school to get death threats, the shooting to be called a false flag operation, the kids 'crisis actors' and not worth listening to because their kids, and anyway wtf do they know about guns...and get ready for THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS
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It says he had an accomplice who was also detained.
This dude used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, but he was able to kill 10 ppl in a pretty short amount of time and Iím thinking maybe itís because someone helped him in some way.

This dude was a member of a dance club at a Greek Orthodox Church and on the high school football team. Fucking bizarre.
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It says he had an accomplice who was also detained.
This dude used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, but he was able to kill 10 ppl in a pretty short amount of time and I’m thinking maybe it’s because someone helped him in some way.

This dude was a member of a dance club at a Greek Orthodox Church and on the high school football team. Fucking bizarre.
the last time this happened I remember posting this reply to you regarding you saying AR-15 were not useful for anything besides war and mass shootings. I suggested that a person could easily inflict just as much damage with a shotgun or handgun. That security was more important than banning a certain weapon because it didn't matter what type of weapons they used if there was nothing to stop them.



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Millions of AR-15 owners use them for peaceful purposes without resorting to taking them to schools and killing innocent people. It's not the rifle, people have rented trucks and killed people by running them over.

In fact I could easily describe how a person could go about murdering a large number of people using handguns or shotguns. Though I won't because I'd rather not lay out tactics for a lunatic to use.

The bottom line is no amount of laws will do more to prevent school shooting than better security will. If a guy can just walk into a school with a rifle does it really matter if it's a AR-15 or a Mossburg 500.
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the last time this happened I remember posting this reply to you regarding you saying AR-15 were not useful for anything besides war and mass shootings. I suggested that a person could easily inflict just as much damage with a shotgun or handgun. That security was more important than banning a certain weapon because it didn't matter what type of weapons they used if there was nothing to stop them.
Well it says he had an accomplice, so maybe somebody helped him. We donít know yet.

You canít say the type of gun people use doesnít matter. You really think Stephen Paddock woulda been able to kill 50 people from 1000+ feet away from his hotel room with a shotgun or a .38?
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Well it says he had an accomplice, so maybe somebody helped him. We donít know yet.

You canít say the type of gun people use doesnít matter. You really think Stephen Paddock woulda been able to kill 50 people from 1000+ feet away from his hotel room with a shotgun or a .38?
That specific reply was about the Florida school shooting. Most schools are a enclosed area with multiple rooms. So no in that case of a school shooting it wouldn't matter. Also remember the Virginia Tech shooting was one guy with handguns. In a school shorting security is always going to be the key.

As for a person shooting from a sniper position into a large crowd from a distance of over 100 yards. A semi-automatic rifle or fully automatic rifle is going to be the mast effective rifle to cause mass casualties. Again though I could describe a tactic inwhich a single shooter could inflict large amounts of casualties with a bolt action rifle and stripper clips.
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That specific reply was about the Florida school shooting. Most schools are a enclosed area with multiple rooms. So no in that case of a school shooting it wouldn't matter. Also remember the Virginia Tech shooting was one guy with handguns. In a school shorting security is always going to be the key.

As for a person shooting from a sniper position into a large crowd from a distance of over 100 yards. A semi-automatic rifle or fully automatic rifle is going to be the mast effective rifle to cause mass casualties. Again though I could describe a tactic inwhich a single shooter could inflict large amounts of casualties with a bolt action rifle and stripper clips.
Maybe youíre right, maybe this what these nutcases will start doing, if assault rifles are banned, maybe theyíll just start bringing 2+ guns to make up for it.

Iím more curious as to what happened to this kid...did one too many blows to the head playing football fuck him up?
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And one comment from a 'man of power' states the kids made a sacrifice - fuck off Ted
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