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[snipershot]

The french cop at the charlie hebdo massacre was armed.
In fact all cops afaik(their may be some exceptions), on the european mainland carry pistols.

[zero-g]

Originally Posted by snipershot

Yes i get your point. However, the majority of all policework is cleaning up after the fact. 100% prevention is impossible, but fast reaction is as good as prevention, when like you say, 'seconds count'.

We also have a nationwide alert system, that when high, has extra armed police patrols at all major train stations, airports etc.

Every beat officer can carry tazer, spray, baton.

Guns are great and all, but they do not create a peaceful society. People create a peaceful society. Either way you look at guns, if your enemy has the same weapon, youre already 50% dead from the get go. Survival isnt about manning up and standing your ground, meeting force with force, its about wiping out your enemy in their sleep.

I wasn't making a dig, it was an honest question.
I wonder if your government is rethinking that position,or not , things being what they are today. Not my place to say either way , I don't live there so, what works for you is all you.

I was just , again honestly, asking the question, as it wouldn't be unreasonable to think maybe they've been armed, and I rightfully questioned tonny's definition of "armed", which we'll just say differs from mine

Cops are never going to be there fast enough , even when they're right there.
How's that for a deep thought ?

[snipershot]

Originally Posted by zero-g

I wasn't making a dig, it was an honest question.
I wonder if your government is rethinking that position,or not , things being what they are today. Not my place to say either way , I don't live there so, what works for you is all you.

I was just , again honestly, asking the question, as it wouldn't be unreasonable to think maybe they've been armed, and I rightfully questioned tonny's definition of "armed", which we'll just say differs from mine

Cops are never going to be there fast enough , even when they're right there.
How's that for a deep thought ?

The way things are going here, they may well be permanently increasing the amount of armed police on our streets for the foreseeable future.

More to do with the middle east being a powder keg at the moment. And one white van man attack on muslims doesnt detract from the last 3 muslim attacks in any way.

With the grenfell tower fire on top of everything in london, things are getting a bit crazy.

[bran]

The cops themselves generally are against the arming of the cops..or have been so far when its brought up...I think there need tgo be a lot more armed coppers...and at least train all coppers in firearms...so if it came to it they could be armed quickly.

[UKatheist]

Originally Posted by bran

The cops themselves generally are against the arming of the cops..or have been so far when its brought up...I think there need tgo be a lot more armed coppers...and at least train all coppers in firearms...so if it came to it they could be armed quickly.

That might in certain circumstances seem like a good idea but with some police officers it would be like trying to train a chimp to operate a lathe.

[Yorkie]

Our police don't need guns, they got nutters like us

[UKatheist]

Originally Posted by Yorkie

Our police don't need guns, they got nutters like us

Shh don't tell everyone.