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Old 04-16-2009, 02:42 AM   #11
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America needs a new rifle FFS! And not a goddamn midget m16 err m4.
m-16 is a toy made for fast return fire.
if we cant have a new rifle atleast give are men a choice of a older one....I would have to go m-14
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:42 AM   #12
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As a gamer, I really wished you'd sign the contract for the XM8 family because of how it looks. If you did that, and retitled the marines as SPARTANS it would even outdo the America's Army game as the most effective recruitment strategy!
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:45 AM   #13
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M-14 Still the best.real killer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XIsWUvgtZY
I think the m-1 was, but not for modern battle though
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:52 AM   #14
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As a gamer, I really wished you'd sign the contract for the XM8 family because of how it looks. If you did that, and retitled the marines as SPARTANS it would even outdo the America's Army game as the most effective recruitment strategy!
from what i understand the xm8 is back in the running, USA is officially lookin for a new rifle

think this one is winning though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_SCAR my bad apparently thats just special forces

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Old 04-16-2009, 02:56 AM   #15
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The 6.8 is a decent compromise btween the 5.56 and the 7.62 I think. I also feel that if the military upped the grains in the 5.56, issue everyone ss109 rounds we may see better stopping power. The real issue here though is that 7.62x51 round is a battle rifle round. In long distance or classical engagements its a hell of a round. However in the door to door combat we saw in Iraq, we need a smaller rifle and more ammo. Designated marksmen and many snipers still use the 7.62 round, but in order to harness the true ability of the round you need a larger rifle.
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:59 AM   #16
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The 6.8 is a decent compromise btween the 5.56 and the 7.62 I think. I also feel that if the military upped the grains in the 5.56, issue everyone ss109 rounds we may see better stopping power. The real issue here though is that 7.62x51 round is a battle rifle round. In long distance or classical engagements its a hell of a round. However in the door to door combat we saw in Iraq, we need a smaller rifle and more ammo. Designated marksmen and many snipers still use the 7.62 round, but in order to harness the true ability of the round you need a larger rifle.
yeah... but like someone said the damn thing is like 50's year old. just seems like America being the pinnacle of technology and military tech especially would have come up with something new.. i realize the m16 has been perfected and is much different from 50 years ago but still.
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Do you have any idea how much money it would cost to outfit the entire military with a new rifle that uses different ammo? New rifles, new mags, new ammo, new replacement parts, new user/armorer training, new gear to carry mags, etc. The people I know that have used the M16/M4 in combat said they never had a problem with it.
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Do you have any idea how much money it would cost to outfit the entire military with a new rifle that uses different ammo? New rifles, new mags, new ammo, new replacement parts, new user/armorer training, new gear to carry mags, etc. The people I know that have used the M16/M4 in combat said they never had a problem with it.
So since it would be expensive and require some work, we should just use m16s forever???
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There's no reason to replace it without a major technological advancement. So far, that hasn't happened yet.
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There's no reason to replace it without a major technological advancement. So far, that hasn't happened yet.
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