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Old 03-16-2017, 01:33 PM   #1
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Default Dutch elections: Rutte starts coalition talks after beating Wilders into second

Dutch elections: Rutte starts coalition talks after beating Wilders into second – as it happened
  • PM Mark Rutte praises voters for stopping ‘wrong kind of populism’
  • Markets rally as Geert Wilders fails to break through
  • Merkel, Juncker and Hollande welcome victory for Europe
  • Labour party routed after GreenLeft surge

With almost all the results in and coalition talks likely to take months we’re going to bring this blog to a close. Here’s a summary:

The results

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>Full article - The Guardian
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Who really expected wilders to win, not me. The dutch party system is a fairly safe way of never letting one party win anything.

That said, the pvv did get 4 more seats than last time round. Not exactly the decline of 'populism' is it.
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Every cloud has a silver lining, eh?
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Every cloud has a silver lining, eh?
I find that the most tolerant people on this planet are the slowest to anger. For good reason.
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Wilders party added more seats and is tied for second. Rutte's party lost seats. The dutch divided their vote among several parties. I wouldn't say Wilders was defeated or rejected by Dutch voters.
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Who really expected wilders to win, not me. The dutch party system is a fairly safe way of never letting one party win anything.

That said, the pvv did get 4 more seats than last time round. Not exactly the decline of 'populism' is it.
He also managed to move the political discourse quite far to the right making his views on immigration and islam more mainstream. This was only round one and if he plays his cards right and manage to nurture his political gains and avoids scandal he can do even better next time. As muslims can't be anything else than muslims there will probably be more than enough outrage to make political currency from.
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He also managed to move the political discourse quite far to the right making his views on immigration and islam more mainstream. This was only round one and if he plays his cards right and manage to nurture his political gains and avoids scandal he can do even better next time. As muslims can't be anything else than muslims there will probably be more than enough outrage to make political currency from.
Is being against islam right wing? Women as 2nd class persons/chattels/property goes against every value i hold dear. Grass roots persecution that is a fundamental part of how islam was established across the world, is also abhorrent to me, and reminds me of our own historical past and sectarian wars that lasted centuries until we adopted secular law.

I know christianity doesnt have clean hands either, but im not a church going christian, and neither are the majority of uk citizens.

We just dont want muslims(or any 'fundamentalists') to bring all their shit here and affect our daily lives in any way. Whether thats them on our streets with signs like 'behead those who insult allah', or pushing their misogyny on their kids with tax payer funded faith schools. Or acts of murder in the name of their god.

It gets to the point where people will be forced to choose who they share their homeland with, that a political solution will manifest itself. Brexit was part of that.
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For such a small country they got a lot of political party's.
Any coalition is gonna be very weak. Probably won't stand for long.
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Is being against islam right wing?
It usually is, but i agree it wasn't very accurate of me to say so.
Personally i hate religion in general and islam in particular and i'm not to be found to the right politically.
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Not very long ago Wilders was viewed as an extremist crackpot. Now the Left is congratulating itself on narrowly beating his strong, growing, second place showing... after having lost seats of their own.

If this trend keeps up (and with continued islamic terror attack atrocities, riots, rapes, assaults, no-go zone proliferation, murders, and official governmental indifference and denial of the problem there's no reason it won't), Wilders, Le Pen, and others like them will be running their governments in the future, just as Trump surprised so many scoffers in the US.
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