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Old 01-08-2018, 01:26 AM   #1
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Default The problem with Ancestry

You may claim yourself descended from Kings and Queens;
but you also must claim descent from ordinary peoples, especially slaves.
The 'Degrees of Separation' aren't as deep as you think they are.
So convoluted and tangled, can't even go beyond 4 generations back.
Simple statistics and genome testing demonstrates it.
Here's a well written article about this...

http://nautil.us/issue/56/perspectiv...everybody-else
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Old 01-08-2018, 03:10 AM   #2
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You may claim yourself descended from Kings and Queens;
but you also must claim descent from ordinary peoples, especially slaves.
The 'Degrees of Separation' aren't as deep as you think they are.
So convoluted and tangled, can't even go beyond 4 generations back.
Simple statistics and genome testing demonstrates it.
Here's a well written article about this...

http://nautil.us/issue/56/perspectiv...everybody-else
I hope I don’t have any Kings or Queens
Or Pharos or Emporers for that matter
Inbred half spastics mostly

Reminds me of people who remember past lives
Did you ever hear of anyone that was a dirt poor serf with chronic herpes and goiter in a past life
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Old 01-08-2018, 03:52 AM   #3
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I hope I donít have any Kings or Queens
Or Pharos or Emporers for that matter
Inbred half spastics mostly

Reminds me of people who remember past lives
Did you ever hear of anyone that was a dirt poor serf with chronic herpes and goiter in a past life
I'm decended from scumbags, blackmailers, garroters, footpads, cattle theives, highwaymen, some of them had proper jobs though.
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Old 01-08-2018, 03:46 AM   #4
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Scot, Irish, Welsh, English, and North European, what ever the fuck that is, I was adopted so I was interested.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:20 AM   #5
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i just did "23andme" .... waiting for the results . .
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i just did "23andme" .... waiting for the results . .
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i just did "23andme" .... waiting for the results . .
i actually thought about buying a kit today. but a while ago, i saw this thing on a talk show where identical triplets each submitted their dna to one of those dna/ancestry things and all 3 got different results back. i can't remember if it was 23andme or 1 of those other dna testing companies, so 23andme may very well be good. but at least 1 of these companies is not.
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:39 AM   #8
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Trisha did the ancestry thing for me as a present last year..pretty much what i expected..lots of Paddy and almost all western European..with a bit of Bengali etc..and 2% Finn?
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My dad was into genealogy. Tracing the family trees of his family and moms.
Found some interesting things in our past, thing is everybody else would be also related...however indirectly....more or less.

That's the thing, you can't go back more than 4 generations for any reliable conclusion of ancestry and heritage, after that it gets more and more convoluted, dispersed.
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My dad was into genealogy. Tracing the family trees of his family and moms.
Found some interesting things in our past, thing is everybody else would be also related...however indirectly....more or less.

That's the thing, you can't go back more than 4 generations for any reliable conclusion of ancestry and heritage, after that it gets more and more convoluted, dispersed.
Me aunt did me grandads side..Scots mostly..she found out loads of stuff that showed me mother up for the lieing cow she sometimes was..bless her..
My Great great grandad was in India before the mutiny..everybody in the British army went there at some point during that time..he did a bunk..like a lot did, then the mutiny happened and he like all the bunker offers returned..no charges. Got a medal and married..the Sgt Majors daughter..who might just have been half Bengali..
Yer right about finding out things before, mostly due to no or lost records though.
Me Irish side..fuck looking into that..far too complex.
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