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Old 11-01-2017, 03:44 PM   #21
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Actually, it was relevant.
Why?
Because the USA is being destroyed from within.
Socialized medicine is not the answer, but, cost control is the answer.

Again, not all socialisms are the same nor equal and applicable to all countries.
I see the U.S. fracturing from lack of social thinking. Not because of it.

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Old 11-01-2017, 03:49 PM   #22
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I see the U.S. fracturing from lack of social thinking. Not because of it.

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I blame your media....

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Old 11-01-2017, 04:04 PM   #23
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Not mine. I am a Canadian.

A socialist country by foolish U.S. standards.

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Old 11-01-2017, 04:27 PM   #24
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Not mine. I am a Canadian.

A socialist country by foolish U.S. standards.

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And it is controlled by the same liars and hypocrites.

Yes, actually both countries are socialist.
Only in different ways and degrees.
Canada is more so and less free.
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Old 11-01-2017, 04:34 PM   #25
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And it is controlled by the same liars and hypocrites.

Yes, actually both countries are socialist.
Only in different ways and degrees.
Canada is more so and less free.
Less free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg-PGhUQ78A

Only the really foolish will not recognize that humans are the least free creatures on earth.

As Socrates asked to exemplify our lack of freedom, who will make your shows?

When did you become free and start living on your own efforts alone?

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Old 11-01-2017, 04:56 PM   #26
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Less free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg-PGhUQ78A

Only the really foolish will not recognize that humans are the least free creatures on earth.

As Socrates asked to exemplify our lack of freedom, who will make your shows?

When did you become free and start living on your own efforts alone?

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In many ways verses the USA.

Actually, only the really foolish do not recognize that humans have the most freedom of any creature on earth due to free will and being able to know that we know the past, present, and likely future.

I make my own "shows".
I have also left the Plato Cave of illusions far behind:
since moving out of my parents home decades ago.

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Old 11-01-2017, 06:05 PM   #27
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In many ways verses the USA.

Actually, only the really foolish do not recognize that humans have the most freedom of any creature on earth due to free will and being able to know that we know the past, present, and likely future.

I make my own shows.
I have also left the cave of illusions behind.
Since moving out of my parents home decades ago.
Sigh.

Who made your computer and who grows your food.

I could go on but think you are bright enough to know what the hell I am talking about.

Especially if you know Socrates enough to reference his cave of illusion.

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Old 11-01-2017, 06:11 PM   #28
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Sigh.

Who made your computer and who grows your food.

I could go on but think you are bright enough to know what the hell I am talking about.

Especially if you know Socrates enough to reference his cave of illusion.

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Plato not Socrates.

I bought both by myself.
No man's an island then?
Ok.
So what?

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I bought both by myself.
No man's an island then?
Ok.
So what?
So I have made my point that freedom is an illusion that does not exist for man.

If you have left the cave, you will know this.

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So I have made my point that freedom is an illusion that does not exist for man.

If you have left the cave, you will know this.

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I am in disagreement with your "point that freedom is an illusion
and that it does not exist for man".
Why?
Because I have left the cave and I am free, thereby.
You just don't understand the allegory or very well.
Plato's Cave and not Socrates' Cave.

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