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Old 02-14-2018, 04:21 AM   #11
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I understand the bible teaches women to be submissive to men.
WOMEN IN ISLAM:
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“Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:30 AM   #12
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Correct, he lost his job over assumptions. Assumptions like wives intentionally punching themselves and taking pictures.

It's your culture that's the problem. I understand the bible teaches women to be submissive to men.
Yes. And it would not be the first time someone punched themselves or even shot themselves on purpose to get someone arrested or to seek retribution. It happens. Put it this way, if someone accused you of it I would give you the benefit of doubt. Now imagine if you were innocent. Would you do the same for someone else before it happened to you? Just something to think about. Seems like you would not but would love me on your jury if you were trying to defend yourself.
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Was he convicted of assault?
What? He wasn't convicted of anything. Is it possible they went into a fit of rage hitting him and he restrained them? Of course it is possible. Happens every single day yet we go on auto guilty. If it was that bad then file formal charges on him. They never did. Only a restraining order which anybody can file.

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WOMEN IN ISLAM:
Tabari IX:113
It's your conservative culture that's the problem.

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1 Timothy 2:11-12 ESV / 40 helpful votes
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

1 Peter 3:7 ESV / 22 helpful votes
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.

1 Timothy 2:11-14 ESV / 14 helpful votes
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

Genesis 3:16 ESV / 14 helpful votes
To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”

Colossians 3:18 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

Genesis 2:18 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.”

1 Peter 2:18 ESV / 10 helpful votes
Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust.

Titus 2:4-5 ESV / 10 helpful votes
And so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

1 Corinthians 11:5 ESV / 10 helpful votes
But every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.

1 Corinthians 11:3 ESV / 10 helpful votes
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

Acts 18:26 ESV / 10 helpful votes
He began to speak boldly in the synagogue, but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him and explained to him the way of God more accurately.

1 Timothy 2:12 ESV / 9 helpful votes
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 ESV / 9 helpful votes
The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

Ephesians 5:22 ESV / 8 helpful votes
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:3-10 ESV / 8 helpful votes
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. ...

Genesis 1:27 ESV / 8 helpful votes
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

John 4:1-54 ESV / 7 helpful votes
Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John (although Jesus himself did not baptize, but only his disciples), he left Judea and departed again for Galilee. And he had to pass through Samaria. So he came to a town of Samaria called Sychar, near the field that Jacob had given to his son Joseph. ...

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Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. And for fear of him the guards trembled and became like dead men. But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. ...

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For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Proverbs 31:1-31 ESV / 6 helpful votes
The words of King Lemuel. An oracle that his mother taught him: What are you doing, my son? What are you doing, son of my womb? What are you doing, son of my vows? Do not give your strength to women, your ways to those who destroy kings. It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed and pervert the rights of all the afflicted. ...

Job 25:4 ESV / 6 helpful votes
How then can man be in the right before God? How can he who is born of woman be pure?

1 Peter 3:4 ESV / 5 helpful votes
But let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.

1 Peter 3:1-6 ESV / 5 helpful votes
Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, ...

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Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,

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O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— ...

1 Corinthians 14:34 ESV / 5 helpful votes
The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35 ESV / 5 helpful votes
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

Romans 16:1 ESV / 5 helpful votes
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church at Cenchreae,

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“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.

Titus 2:3-5 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

1 Timothy 5:9 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Let a widow be enrolled if she is not less than sixty years of age, having been the wife of one husband,

1 Timothy 2:13 ESV / 4 helpful votes
For Adam was formed first, then Eve;

1 Timothy 2:8-15 ESV / 4 helpful votes
I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling; likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. ...

Ephesians 5:22-24 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

Ephesians 5:21-25 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

1 Corinthians 11:7 ESV / 4 helpful votes
For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.

1 Corinthians 11:3-16 ESV / 4 helpful votes
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. ...

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Now as they went on their way, Jesus entered a village. And a woman named Martha welcomed him into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet and listened to his teaching. But Martha was distracted with much serving. And she went up to him and said, “Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me.” But the Lord answered her, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things, but one thing is necessary. Mary has chosen the good portion, which will not be taken away from her.”

Luke 8:1-3 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Soon afterward he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing the good news of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with him, and also some women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities: Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out, and Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's household manager, and Susanna, and many others, who provided for them out of their means.

Matthew 6:1-34 ESV / 4 helpful votes
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. ...

Deuteronomy 24:1 ESV / 4 helpful votes
“When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house,

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“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

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Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation. These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, ...

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Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
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Yes. And it would not be the first time someone punched themselves or even shot themselves on purpose to get someone arrested or to seek retribution. It happens. Put it this way, if someone accused you of it I would give you the benefit of doubt. Now imagine if you were innocent. Would you do the same for someone else before it happened to you? Just something to think about. Seems like you would not but would love me on your jury if you were trying to defend yourself.
Yes and it would not be the first time he's punched a wife. He's got a couple problems. Your culture is embarrassing.
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Yes and it would not be the first time he's punched a wife. He's got a couple problems. Your culture is embarrassing.
I knew someone where a couple of women accused this person of rape. He denied it and told me he would never do something like that and I believed him. Guy was in tears.

They even had his sperm. Lost his job, wrecked his life. When the police dug a little deeper they found major holes in their stories to the point they eventually admitted they lied. One girl was angry he dumped her and got the other one to sleep with him and save his sperm and call the law.

Think about that for a minute and imagine yourself in that situation. They almost got away with destroying this guy. Complete BS to burn someone at the stake over this stuff. Let it play out in a court of law instead of convicting them over accusations.

It is the responsibility of the accuser to prove it. In this case and the Duke Lacrosse Team case they could not. Not only could they not prove it, they admitted they lied and they went to jail.

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