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Old 05-01-2008, 12:36 PM   #1
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Theres iraqis that hate the U.S troops because they killed there family and want payback , those that just hate americians because they invaded there country for a bunch of lies . Those that just like blowing things up etc etc . There not all radicals , and this is why the war will be lost by the U.S . there is much more support in iraq to kick the U.S out than you think .

There are radicals of all types

Start adding to all of the above , iran, syria etc pumping in millions of dollers , ammo , etc and there no way the U.S can win in iraq . Your kidding yourself if you realy think this will end without a total pullout .


We ve had the surge that would fix everything , elections and everything in between that would also bring joy to iraqis and a victory , but iraq remains a mess .


Reality hurts but you ve gotta face it and leave iraq or keep pumping in billions of dollers and allow your troops to go home cripples . Is this all ok by you ? if so who here is prepared to stay for another 10 , 20 , 100 years ?
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:22 AM   #2
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Theres also Iraqis who like the G.I.'s, but then I've been there, have you?
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Theres also Iraqis who like the G.I.'s, but then I've been there, have you?
An recent example;

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Old 05-04-2008, 05:38 AM   #4
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If the USA loses that doesn't mean Iraq wins.
If the USA wins that most likely means the posterity of Iraq wins.
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You're right peabody we are going to lose the war......it may not be considered a total lose but soon it will have a great chance at becoming a lose when a Dem becomes the next U.S pres because the removal of troop will be priority number one....as we all know if we come home without killing 95 percent of the ME those crazy delusional radical types like Rottenass above will think it's a victory for them...I don't know no matter what we do unless we just took total control over Iraq which can't happen with our troops home but unless we did that I think the Islamic radicals would just continue to lie to themselves thinking they're winning. You can't win either way if we continue to stay there what's the outcome....? The wars in Iraq and Afgh were doomed from the start I must say although with the lack of planning, accurate intel , strategy and the lack of total cooperation .....wait there are so many reasons besides that.....also the continuation of tribal and religious violence that doesn't' have anything to do with the US...crazy I don't see a good outcome thats logical considering the different factors, jacked up situation.
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If the USA loses that doesn't mean Iraq wins.
If the USA wins that most likely means the posterity of Iraq wins.
If what he considers a win happens Aquina it means Iraq would be a lawless war zone comparable recently to how many countries are in Africa with warring warlords fighting for power and destroying the infrastructure. The Iraqi military aren't yet trained well enough to keep the peace but who knows could be a great uprising after we leave and everyone will do the right thing .......I hope anyway cause it's coming, we'll be out of there if a Dem gets elected and it looks that way. This is one of the other few things I'm not sure about, how can I be as we won't know the outcome for some time.
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If the USA loses that doesn't mean Iraq wins.
If the USA wins that most likely means the posterity of Iraq wins.
Seems like Iraqi's are doing far worse since Saddam was deposed..... name something substantial that they have gained from US invasion and occupation.
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Seems like Iraqi's are doing far worse since Saddam was deposed..... name something substantial that they have gained from US invasion and occupation.
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If what he considers a win happens Aquina it means Iraq would be a lawless war zone comparable recently to how many countries are in Africa with warring warlords fighting for power and destroying the infrastructure. The Iraqi military aren't yet trained well enough to keep the peace but who knows could be a great uprising after we leave and everyone will do the right thing .......I hope anyway cause it's coming, we'll be out of there if a Dem gets elected and it looks that way. This is one of the other few things I'm not sure about, how can I be as we won't know the outcome for some time.
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Wow.... it has all been worth it.... don't worry about the hundreds of thousands who have died and the 1000+ who die on average every month..... Iraqi's must be counting there lucky stars that US agression came knocking on their doors - pathetic
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