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Old 09-11-2017, 11:37 PM   #61
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Of course, you say?

Then stop supporting all of those that do instigate and only profit from such wars.
I do disagree, and so would they, if they saw what freedoms they had lost from it.
See:
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Do you not think that the British Empire would still be strong if not for those wars?
Or have all of the demographic problems that it has being foisted upon it by others?

Not likely.

You are just in denial of the fact that the "sun set" on their lost British Empire,
thereby, and that caused it to become the second or third rate power it is now.
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The British empire carried the seeds of its own demise just as all empires do
Not by the cost of war but by the fact that those who carried its weight on their shoulders cast off the burden
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:27 AM   #62
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Wot Adapto and BB said...
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:45 PM   #63
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I respect all soldiers that set aside their personal wants and desires to struggle and die for the family, the community, the nation; because they fight and die for their own.
It is wrong for us that survive and live after to judge them for what they did.
Even long after the fact, it is wrong of us to condemn those of the past that fought and struggled for something that we no longer understand, even condemn.
It shows our ignorance of history, our jaundiced opinion of the past and future.
Tater shows one side of this ignorance, Parnitzke shows us the other.
I disagree.
Most were drafted and or were sold a lie to justify their sacrifice.
I do not condemn the soldiers but only those that instigate wars.

I am not the one condoning the removal of Confederate statues
in ignorance of history for a leftist agenda of political correctness.
You really do have no real clue BB, as your inner light is burnt out.

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Old 09-12-2017, 06:54 PM   #64
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Bullsyte
The British empire carried the seeds of its own demise just as all empires do
Not by the cost of war but by the fact that those who carried its weight on their shoulders cast off the burden
Yes and no.
Yes, all empires contain the seeds of its own destruction.
Yes, due to the huge losses and costs of two world wars.
No, that last was only possible due to the weakness of a
now bankrupt British Empire both morally and financially.
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Oh bullshit
The British empire was in decline before the 14-18 war
They were able to maintain a large navy because of technical and Industrial advantages
But that was never going to last more than 50 years war or no
America was lost before 19th century
India was already discontent before the beginning of the 20th
Without America and India there was no empire
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:00 PM   #66
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Yes and no.
Yes, all empires contain the seeds of its own destruction.
Yes, due to the huge losses and costs of two world wars.
No, that last was only possible due to the weakness of a
now bankrupt British Empire both morally and financially.
We were giving the Empire away anyway...we had reached the point where we couldnt maintain it..some couldnt wait..but most of our Empire decided to stay with us in the Commonwealth...which shows just how evil we were to them...progress means change...sadly...and countries do change over time..
Look at Germany..a pretty good change in lots of ways...and just like us and every other country..lots of different bad too..
Whining about the past is pointless..what might have beens are pointless..doing the right thing and making sensible choices NOW..is the only thing that matters.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:18 PM   #67
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We were giving the Empire away anyway...we had reached the point where we couldnt maintain it..some couldnt wait..but most of our Empire decided to stay with us in the Commonwealth...which shows just how evil we were to them...progress means change...sadly...and countries do change over time..
Look at Germany..a pretty good change in lots of ways...and just like us and every other country..lots of different bad too..
Whining about the past is pointless..what might have beens are pointless..doing the right thing and making sensible choices NOW..is the only thing that matters.
Industrial wars did weaken the resolve of the British to the Ideal of dying for King//Queen and country
The way the tommy was wasted en mass saw to that ;(
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:35 PM   #68
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Political censorship of the internet and all such lying hypocrisy is angering, yes,
and is totally regardless of the "content" as long as it is actually legal "content".
See:
https://cs.stanford.edu/people/erobe...ion/index.html

Apparently, you don't understand why freedom of political speech is important?
That is why Americans in the USA still do have it, and all of you in the UK and
or in the EU Europe of "Slavelandia" do not, although, that may soon change.
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I agree with some things you say, and disagree with others. But it's become apparent to me by now that you aren't really interested in constructive dialog here. I'm not sure how you took from my comment that i'm somehow anti-free speech, but you seem to have built yourself a nice straw man.

I wasn't saying some of your opinions should be silenced and taken from you. I was simply trying to convey that some of them are just absolute horse shit, spread on white bread.

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The empire ended because that was the natural progression for colonies to become dominions then independent states. Although I had a teacher sum it up in one word-fatigue. I.e., why maintain a system fueled by the labor of the working class that profited the upper class when you can have socialism.
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I agree with some things you say, and disagree with others. But it's become apparent to me by now that you aren't really interested in constructive dialog here. I'm not sure how you took from my comment that i'm somehow anti-free speech, but you seem to have built yourself a nice straw man.

I wasn't saying some of your opinions should be silenced and taken from you. I was simply trying to convey that some of them are just absolute horse shit, spread on white bread.

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