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Granted, an attacker who isn't very intelligent wouldn't. But not all attackers are dumbasses, and i'm pretty sure they take these factors into consideration when they plan attacks. It's common sense stuff. I guess your argument is, ''Well there's no terrorist here to ask, or no absolute proof that this happens, so we have to assume it never happens and never will'. That to me, sounds irrational. It's pretty much common sense that someone planning an attack, when choosing a location, would take into consideration whether the location might have armed citizens. It's a no brainer.
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but if you wanna make it about defending yourself and your feelings, as opposed to actually reading and comprehending the entire post, be my guest. |
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Look at your first paragraph. I answered that more than anything else. You asked me how would i know, and have i ever planned to commit an attack. In response to me stating that gun free zones most likely are taken into consideration by attackers. I replied. Here was your first questions Quote:
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The part about how effective the laws are in restricting guns in gun free zones, and not being able to check everyone or find out who's armed and who isn't, i agreed with for the most part. So why would i argue with it. My main gripe was your first comment and first question, which was directly relevant to the statement you replied too. Let's not go all over the place with this or play silly mind games. I answered properly, and it couldn't have been more direct. Cheers.
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I don't know about this case, but most mass shooters tend to plan their attacks a year or more in advance. There are few of them that just crack, get a gun and start shooting. It's a fallacy that these are spur of the moment attacks.
And yes, there is data that demonstrates that most mass murdering shooters do intend to kill as many people as possible. That means, yes, they are choosing venues that are gun free zones because they know they are less likely to encounter immediate, deadly resistance. I don't know if that is true in this case. It's also true that burglars tend to avoid home invasions in areas where home owners are more likely to be armed. Convicted robbers and burglars try to avoid victims that are more likely to be armed.
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I could see it playing a factor in people who, say, hold up a liquor store they used to work at and know from experience (used to work there, etc) that there are no guns behind the counter. That I could see and it happens all the time, former employees robbing places they know have a safe full of $ and no gun, etc. But just seeing a sign that it's a "gun-free" zone, without any real first-hand knowledge of the place, I can't see that mattering much for the reasons I stated in my earlier post. |
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![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Zan4ghL80 Video of the nightclub shooting. Shooting starts at 4:10 or shortly thereafter.
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Nothing from #blacklivesmatter? funny that.
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And it doesn't surprise me that most of these people have been thinking about and planning their attacks for over a year. I imagine it would take a long time to psych yourself into actually going through with it. Last edited by slacker-; 07-02-2017 at 05:27 AM. |
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