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Old 12-01-2017, 06:47 AM   #11
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This is not justice. Not at all. I can't imagine what sort of thought process led to the not guilty verdict. It can't be a rational thought process.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:11 AM   #12
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Prior offender in possession used to be 10 years, maybe not in Kommifornia?

edit- 6 months to 3 years only, wow
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Old 12-01-2017, 12:23 PM   #13
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Un-fucking-believable ...

From what I heard, his defense was "I found it under a chair, was inspecting it (because he claims he didn't know what it was) and it went off."

Really? Imagine if a lawful gun owner in Cali had a gun taken by someone without consent and someone got shot... they would put him under the jail.

Fucking liberals...
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:23 PM   #14
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If it was me, I'd be thinking,"how fast can I pack up the car and get out of this shithole"
I'd be thinking, "when is his deportation date?, and how can I get close enough to get a clear shot"
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:15 PM   #15
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Thank goodness the City of San Fransisco protected Zarate's human rights when the Feds wanted to deport him a sixth time!

Grotesque and absurd.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:13 PM   #16
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I could understand how they could find him not guilty on murder charges. I cannot understand in any circumstances how they didn't find him guilty of Manslaughter.

More than likely he is the person that stole the gun.

Who would take a stolen gun to the pier and than just leave it under a bench? If you stole it, used it for a crime and than wanted to get rid of it, why wouldn't you than just toss it into the water?

Regardless of all that. He was a felon in possession of a stolen weapon and his action caused the death of a innocent woman with the stolen weapon. He shouldn't have even been on that pier, or in this state at all for that matter.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:53 PM   #17
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I could understand how they could find him not guilty on murder charges. I cannot understand in any circumstances how they didn't find him guilty of Manslaughter.

More than likely he is the person that stole the gun.

Who would take a stolen gun to the pier and than just leave it under a bench? If you stole it, used it for a crime and than wanted to get rid of it, why wouldn't you than just toss it into the water?

Regardless of all that. He was a felon in possession of a stolen weapon and his action caused the death of a innocent woman with the stolen weapon. He shouldn't have even been on that pier, or in this state at all for that matter.
This is very true, and logical, I always like that.. If and I mean IF his story is true about her death being a accident, I guess it would be closer to man slaughter of some type. He did cause her death after all. Logically, I can live with that other things being mitigating factors. But if you add in as aggravating factors, the fact he was deported 5 times, had a extensive criminal history, was a felon, and had a gun while being a felon to the over all decision. He did all this and more while solely causing her death in a country he was not suppose to be in the first place. Where does that move the crime to? Lower level murder, negligent homicide at least.

If she was pregnant and her baby died from this act, he would catch a murder charge just for that in most states.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:52 PM   #18
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The prosecution should have gone for 1st degree manslaughter instead of 1st degree murder, or at least given the jury the option of choosing between the two charges. The prosecution got over zealous, because they saw the political opportunity of a murder conviction. We've all seen this before, well, at least I have.

I found this article on it. Now of course it's a hit piece on the administration and an obvious backhanded insult to the prosecutors, but it does have a good compilations of facts, just gotta read between all the hyperbole

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...EcH?li=BBnb7Kz
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:58 PM   #19
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Prior offender in possession used to be 10 years, maybe not in Kommifornia?

edit- 6 months to 3 years only, wow
That's because there's so many of those fuckers in prison, they have to give shorter sentences to make it seem like the population is more controlled or doesn't have an immigrant offender population that large.
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I wouldn't hold it against North Korea if they wanted to Nuke California . . . just sayin
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