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Old 12-04-2017, 01:21 AM   #1
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Default Is it honorable to force men or women to wear veils or any particular garment?

Is it honorable to force men or women to wear veils or any particular garment?

I ask this question, because forcing people to do so, seems to go against the notions of freedom, liberty, equality and fraternity. It is an insult to our fiduciary duty to each other and is responsible for many honor killings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvdqNU8rX4

In many countries, be it a religious, political or social custom; women and men are forced to wear particular garments;, veils hijabs, or beards are three examples of this.

Does this practice of using force go against our fiduciary duty to women and men?

The Golden Rules or some form of reciprocity exists in most religions and cultures.

No one likes to be forced to do anything, this is irrefutable. In some cultures, force is used to have men and women kowtow to the culture or religion. This is a poor and immoral ideology.

I believe that obliging or forcing people to submit to any political, social or religious norm, including forcing various apparel, --- without a just cause, --- is immoral.

Do you agree?

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Old 12-04-2017, 02:48 AM   #2
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Is it honorable to force men or women to wear veils or any particular garment?

I ask this question, because forcing people to do so, seems to go against the notions of freedom, liberty, equality and fraternity. It is an insult to our fiduciary duty to each other and is responsible for many honor killings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvdqNU8rX4

In many countries, be it a religious, political or social custom; women and men are forced to wear particular garments;, veils hijabs, or beards are three examples of this.

Does this practice of using force go against our fiduciary duty to women and men?

The Golden Rules or some form of reciprocity exists in most religions and cultures.

No one likes to be forced to do anything, this is irrefutable. In some cultures, force is used to have men and women kowtow to the culture or religion. This is a poor and immoral ideology.

I believe that obliging or forcing people to submit to any political, social or religious norm, including forcing various apparel, --- without a just cause, --- is immoral.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL
I take it you just post your stuff here but never read or participate in any other way
Because if you had you would not be posing such redundant questions
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:39 AM   #3
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Obviously, gIa is using words that he doesn't understand.
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:31 PM   #4
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I take it you just post your stuff here but never read or participate in any other way
Because if you had you would not be posing such redundant questions
You think so?
Maybe. Maybe not.
Yes, many of them are redundant.
So what?
At least they are not as purile as your posts.
Nor as stinky as them or your finger, chimp.

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Old 12-05-2017, 03:33 PM   #5
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Obviously, gIa is using words that he doesn't understand.
So do you.
Chutzpah!

What words might those have been, burnt out bulb?
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Default What do you define as "a just cause"?

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Is it honorable to force men or women to wear veils or any particular garment?

I ask this question, because forcing people to do so, seems to go against the notions of freedom, liberty, equality and fraternity. It is an insult to our fiduciary duty to each other and is responsible for many honor killings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvdqNU8rX4

In many countries, be it a religious, political or social custom; women and men are forced to wear particular garments;, veils hijabs, or beards are three examples of this.

Does this practice of using force go against our fiduciary duty to women and men?

The Golden Rules or some form of reciprocity exists in most religions and cultures.

No one likes to be forced to do anything, this is irrefutable. In some cultures, force is used to have men and women kowtow to the culture or religion. This is a poor and immoral ideology.

I believe that obliging or forcing people to submit to any political, social or religious norm, including forcing various apparel, --- without a just cause, --- is immoral.

Do you agree?

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That definition of "a just cause" may or may not be moral.

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Old 12-05-2017, 05:20 PM   #7
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That definition of "a just cause" may or may not be moral.
Being a subjective judgement a just cause might indeed be moral for one and not the other.

I would need an example though and cannot really think of such a case at present.

Did you have something specific in mind?

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Being a subjective judgement a just cause might indeed be moral for one and not the other.

I would need an example though and cannot really think of such a case at present.

Did you have something specific in mind?

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How so?
"Subjective" you say?
I disagree.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Hypocrisy is immoral at worse and amoral at best.
What is your definition of "a just cause"?
It may or may not be moral, thereby, if not universal.
Your hypocritical "tribal bias" post number 13 in another thread is immoral, thereby.

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Old 12-05-2017, 05:36 PM   #9
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How so?
"Subjective" you say?
I disagree.
Ok.

Show an objective just cause that is always just.

You do know that you are contradicting your ---- "That definition of "a just cause" may or may not be moral."

Perhaps it is just our use of terms. I will see when you show an objective just cause.

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Old 12-05-2017, 06:08 PM   #10
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Ok.

Show an objective just cause that is always just.

You do know that you are contradicting your ---- "That definition of "a just cause" may or may not be moral."

Perhaps it is just our use of terms. I will see when you show an objective just cause.

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"Survival" is an objective and universal and moral "just cause".
A contradiction? Not at all.
I said "your definition of it" may or may not be moral.
You just did not understand.

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