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Old 12-21-2010, 03:49 PM   #1
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A few people have asked recently about privacy on the site (including in the "Ask Hayden" thread) so I thought it would be a good idea to clear the air on the subject. I know there are some that will always claim otherwise about our approach to privacy but we take it very seriously.

Main Site.

On the main site we do not keep separate records of e-mail addresses. The only instance of your mail addy is with your account. We do not sell mailing lists or contacts.

Private messaging is private. As LL is all original code no tool was implemented to allow mods or admins to read private messages. To read a private message (which would only happen in certain legal situations or if we genuinely believed the site was under threat) we would have to either access your account or access the database. To date we have not been asked to access private messages by any legal authority.

Forums.

The forums use the vbulletin software. As it comes there is no built in tool to allow mods or admins to read your private messages. To do so as system admin would have to access the database. We are well aware there are all kinds of third party tools which would allow a site owner to access both accounts and private messages without leaving a trace. This is not the sort of plug in we would install on our system and certainly not the behaviour we would want to see from any mod or admin.

Chat

The chat system offers you a choice of whether to include private messages in the chat log. We have not, and never have, checked that box. This means private messages to do not show in the logs and mods have no access to the public logs anyway, only admins. Again, private messages could be accessed via the database if the need arose. The need has never arisen and hopefully never will.


We are fully aware of certain accusations but we have always been perfectly clear. If you are a member here you have no fear of us reading anything that is private, it's none of our business and there simply aren't enough hours in the day (or interest on our part) to be sifting through what you say to others you would rather not be in public. We all like to think we are the centre of the universe but our day is normally filled with keeping the site rolling along and doing whatever we have to for our other work, not worrying what one person might say to another in private.

Naturally there will always be some who would prefer to believe otherwise, and those who would argue the sky is bright green if we claim it's blue. This is expected and accepted on our part and to those people we can only say that it's probably best you don't use any private messaging facility and then you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:36 PM   #2
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:03 PM   #3
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:37 PM   #4
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whew, well Im glad I dont have to worry about anymore after hearing the same response over and over for 4 years. I really really believe you now!!
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:49 PM   #5
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Yeah for anyone thinking that admin reads your pm's I would go a step further and tell you after a situation arose not that long ago where someone was falsely accusing me of something said in a pm that H not only didn't go look in his pm's immediately but he even asked his permission before doing so, even though I was anxious to be vindicated I still thought that was a pretty cool thing to do that was certainly not required seeing how this is a private site and he has the authority to do as he pleases. All in all it's silly to think admin would spend their reading your pm's but just in case I wanted to relay what happened above....it's pretty disrespectful to accuse those who provide you with this medium of communication, for FREE no less.
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:01 PM   #6
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:19 PM   #7
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I think it's obvious the Name Hayden Hewitt is a sudo-name, just slides off the tongue too well.
Obviously an MI6 agent spying on all you Jihadi "war war" Americans.

Don't believe a word he says,silvery tongued mofo that one.
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:19 PM   #8
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Yeah for anyone thinking that admin reads your pm's I would go a step further and tell you after a situation arose not that long ago where someone was falsely accusing me of something said in a pm that H not only didn't go look in his pm's immediately but he even asked his permission before doing so, even though I was anxious to be vindicated I still thought that was a pretty cool thing to do that was certainly not required seeing how this is a private site and he has the authority to do as he pleases. All in all it's silly to think admin would spend their reading your pm's but just in case I wanted to relay what happened above....it's pretty disrespectful to accuse those who provide you with this medium of communication, for FREE no less.

and to add to that, the only way for them to access your acct would be to change your password so you would obviously know if admin did look at your pm's so it's really a moot point.....it can't happen without you knowing so why worry about it?
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #9
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Does this mean it's safe for me to remove the tinfoil-covered-copper-wire-bird-cage from my head ? *quivering lower lip*
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:03 PM   #10
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Hayden, I know your true identity... or should I say, 009.
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