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Old 06-17-2017, 09:33 PM   #11
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Just shut your holes and wait for the verdict.
LOL, you shut yer fukn hole, bitch! I'll opine and speculate all I want on this shit.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:43 PM   #12
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Doesn't matter who is at fault, the Captain, the XO, the Navigation, and the OD will loose their careers. You don't fuck up like this, in peace time.

Who pays for the repairs to both ships, under maritime laws, is a different thing.
It will take years, lot's of lawyers getting rich, and the taxpayers of both nations will git shafted.
*poof* There went your naval career. Ultimately you can't excuse a collision like this. You're done.
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Old 06-18-2017, 03:43 AM   #13
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Damn, some of the missing found in the flooded berthing space, taken to Yokosuka for ID, too bad.
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Old 06-18-2017, 04:14 AM   #14
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RIP...there's no excuse for this much incompetence
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:12 AM   #15
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Yeah, those guys are all fukt. I would like to hear the details of this, though. How the hell do you fuck up so bad? We'll find out in the coming days what happened, I guess.

Video of damage here. From the looks of the damage, to me it looks like they were broadsided, they didn't run into anything, they were rammed. How the hell did that happen? 7 went into the sea? What were they doing, leaning over the rail watching the whole thing go down? General Quarters? What?

Doesn't make any sense to me, it would seem that there either had to be a very high level of incompetence on board that ship, or...I don't even know.

Doesn't sit right, yet. Need more info on what actually happened.

7 gone into the deep. RIP, yer in Davy Jones locker now, boys.
The damage on the starboard side indicate the warship didn't have the right of way. Having said that, how this could happen, given all the technology aboard ship boggles the mind. There's a lot more to this story me thinks.
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Old 06-18-2017, 12:38 PM   #16
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Haven't read any updates, but if the missing are floating around in the ocean, it's a terrible death. Hopefully we'll get a nice survivor story, my thoughts are with them. RIP to the dead. Horrible thing to happen, major fuck up and someone should be held accountable.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:19 PM   #17
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Haven't read any updates, but if the missing are floating around in the ocean, it's a terrible death. Hopefully we'll get a nice survivor story, my thoughts are with them. RIP to the dead. Horrible thing to happen, major fuck up and someone should be held accountable.
I believe that most of the missing sailors were found in a flooded compartment.
I think there's one still missing.
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From what I've seen so far, Fitzgerald has a large hole below the water line, that came from the 'wave cutter' bow on the cargo ship. It hit at 2 berthing spaces, a radio room, and an engineering/mechanic room. Divers discovered 'some' bodies in a flooded berthing space, but no word yet if it was all of the missing.

Fitzgerald could have sunk very easily with it's damage, but damage control seems to have worked well. Saw video of it being towed in, and it has a good list to it.
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From what I've seen so far, Fitzgerald has a large hole below the water line, that came from the 'wave cutter' bow on the cargo ship. It hit at 2 berthing spaces, a radio room, and an engineering/mechanic room. Divers discovered 'some' bodies in a flooded berthing space, but no word yet if it was all of the missing.

Fitzgerald could have sunk very easily with it's damage, but damage control seems to have worked well. Saw video of it being towed in, and it has a good list to it.
Damage Control school, Ford Island, Pearl Harbor, 1980's. Have to go through Damage Control school, Shipboard Firefighting school and all that kind of training at Pearl twice a year. They lock 5 of us in a special room and begin flooding it through some fake damage rips and holes. You've got to plug the holes and get the pumps going before the water reaches chest level or you "die"...we always died the first time or two. Fucking chaos.

They teach you to plug the holes with a human body if you have to. No shit.
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Damage Control school, Ford Island, Pearl Harbor, 1980's. Have to go through Damage Control school, Shipboard Firefighting school and all that kind of training at Pearl twice a year. They lock 5 of us in a special room and begin flooding it through some fake damage rips and holes. You've got to plug the holes and get the pumps going before the water reaches chest level or you "die"...we always died the first time or two. Fucking chaos.

They teach you to plug the holes with a human body if you have to. No shit.
Been through the ones @ Great Lakes and Norfolk. For officers it was directed more for the managing and containing damage than actually fighting the damage, and also accessing the 'situation' on the fly as it was happening. as one instructor put it 'Save the ship at all cost. Everybody's lives depends upon YOU to make the right decision, make that hard call.'

In NROTC, also went through the enlisted A and B school for DC. I think the instructors sorta took 'special' interest in us middies. Busted our asses, and rightly so.
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