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Old 06-18-2017, 10:15 PM   #21
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Sad stuff, RIP.
I really hope the person/persons responsible for this are held fully accountable..it seems this tragedy just shouldnt have happened.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:13 PM   #22
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Been through the ones @ Great Lakes and Norfolk. For officers it was directed more for the managing and containing damage than actually fighting the damage, and also accessing the 'situation' on the fly as it was happening. as one instructor put it 'Save the ship at all cost. Everybody's lives depends upon YOU to make the right decision, make that hard call.'

In NROTC, also went through the enlisted A and B school for DC. I think the instructors sorta took 'special' interest in us middies. Busted our asses, and rightly so.
You were an officer? Didn't know that, I worked for a living. j/k

At least they found the bodies, families need that. RIP.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:58 AM   #23
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Rumor mill.....

The CSX Crystal made two U turns in order to ram the USS Fitzgerald.
The CSX Crystal did not have it's transponder on and did not have it's lights on.
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Old 06-19-2017, 02:26 PM   #24
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Rumor mill.....

The CSX Crystal made two U turns in order to ram the USS Fitzgerald.
The CSX Crystal did not have it's transponder on and did not have it's lights on.
Yea, looks like the freight ship rammed the fitz on purpose. Sure, ships are big things, but so is the ocean.
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Old 06-19-2017, 02:47 PM   #25
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That^^^ might explain the rather tight 90 turn made earlier.
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Rumor mill.....

The CSX Crystal made two U turns in order to ram the USS Fitzgerald.
The CSX Crystal did not have it's transponder on and did not have it's lights on.
Plugged your ship into the data finder and it isn't there...found out it is the ACX Crystal. Go here to track her movements on Saturday, it would appear that the AIS was on and SUNUVABITCH will you look at her movements right before she rammed the Fitzgerald?

Holy fucking shit! Need to check those times closer, but upon first glance, wow. Click here for her last tracking. One caveat, I haven't looked closely at the times of that track, but you'll notice the anomaly right away.

And how does the Fitzgerald, then, not notice this erratic behavior and warn them? If that had happened, surely shots would have been fired "across the bow" of the Crystal as a warning first? Maybe that did happen and the military just hasn't said so. But if that did happen, then they most likely would have followed with actually shooting the fucker before they got rammed, but doesn't look like the Crystal had that kind of damage to me. How the fuck does any news org know what really happened out there, really? Only the Fitzgerald, the Crystal, and Japanese and US governmental authorities have the truth, and I'm sure it is a doosey.

Smells real fishy to me.

Go here to plug in the ACX Crystal for yourself and see her movements. Enter the vessel name in the search box in the upper right section of the page.

Just look at her movements in the pic. If this is accurate, it is certainly a bizarre course for a large container ship supposedly delivering goods.

Here is an interesting article at American Thinker.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:17 AM   #27
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Plugged your ship into the data finder and it isn't there...found out it is the ACX Crystal. Go here to track her movements on Saturday, it would appear that the AIS was on and SUNUVABITCH will you look at her movements right before she rammed the Fitzgerald?

Holy fucking shit! Need to check those times closer, but upon first glance, wow. Click here for her last tracking. One caveat, I haven't looked closely at the times of that track, but you'll notice the anomaly right away.

And how does the Fitzgerald, then, not notice this erratic behavior and warn them? If that had happened, surely shots would have been fired "across the bow" of the Crystal as a warning first? Maybe that did happen and the military just hasn't said so. But if that did happen, then they most likely would have followed with actually shooting the fucker before they got rammed, but doesn't look like the Crystal had that kind of damage to me. How the fuck does any news org know what really happened out there, really? Only the Fitzgerald, the Crystal, and Japanese and US governmental authorities have the truth, and I'm sure it is a doosey.

Smells real fishy to me.

Go here to plug in the ACX Crystal for yourself and see her movements. Enter the vessel name in the search box in the upper right section of the page.

Just look at her movements in the pic. If this is accurate, it is certainly a bizarre course for a large container ship supposedly delivering goods.

Here is an interesting article at American Thinker.
yes, excuse me, it was the ACX Crystal. I got my info from rumor mill.

btw, ACX isn't a Japanese ship. It's flies the Filipino flag. Again, from rumor mill.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:19 AM   #28
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Breaks my heart, those sailors lost, their friends and families, just tragic.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:19 AM   #29
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I don't understand this, was everyone sleeping? A container ship takes miles to stop or turn, it has no hope in hell catching a navy destroyer - yet it happened!?
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Breaks my heart, those sailors lost, their friends and families, just tragic.
RIP Sailors.
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