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Old 11-01-2017, 06:56 PM   #31
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Not mine. I am a Canadian.

A socialist country by foolish U.S. standards.

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Old 11-01-2017, 07:07 PM   #32
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I am in disagreement with your point that freedom is an illusion
and that it does not exist for man.
Why?
Because I have left the cave and I am free, thereby.
You just don't understand the allegory or very well.
Plato's Cave and not Socrates' Cave.
Socrates was the teacher and Plato the student.

You are talking of free thinking, or out of the box thinking, not of freedom from the tribe or what you need from it. You are just unencumbered by tradition and dogma or what you might initially perceive.

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Old 11-02-2017, 05:32 PM   #33
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Socrates was the teacher and Plato the student.

You are talking of free thinking, or out of the box thinking, not of freedom from the tribe or what you need from it. You are just unencumbered by tradition and dogma or what you might initially perceive.

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Initially, that actually was the case.
All good teachers also do learn from their students.
Plato went on to "teach" as well, as in his "Cave" allegory.

That is correct, but, also freedom from the "tribe" or from "what you might once have needed from it" also as well.
That is also correct, but, I also do often "go along to get along" or when it's necessary.
Or, "while in Rome, do what the Romans do", so to speak.
"Live and let live."

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Old 11-02-2017, 07:22 PM   #34
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Initially, that actually was the case.
All good teachers also do learn from their students.
Plato went on to "teach" as well, as in his "Cave" allegory.

That is correct, but, also freedom from the "tribe" or from "what you might once have needed from it" also as well.
That is also correct, but, I also do often "go along to get along" or when it's necessary.
Or, "while in Rome, do what the Romans do", so to speak.
"Live and let live."
Socrates taught that there was no such thing as freedom or freedom from the tribe.

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Old 11-03-2017, 07:04 PM   #35
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Socrates taught that there was no such thing as freedom or freedom from the tribe.

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Not as much true today.

Plato's Cave allegory "proved" Socrates wrong.
There is such freedom, and also from the tribe.
Always within.

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Old 11-04-2017, 03:03 PM   #36
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Not as much true today.

Plato's Cave allegory "proved" Socrates wrong.
There is such freedom, and also from the tribe.
Always within.
Sure, but not without or away from the tribe, unless you want to live like a lower animal. That just might be possible but only after a person grows up.

I am sure you have heard of feral children who end more like dogs than humans.

Do you want that freedom for your children?

You say --- Not as much true today. ---

How would you know. Who are you seeing living free?

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Who are you seeing living free?

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ain't jesus

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Yes. Garbage.
Which is why I seldom bother with your shat.

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Yes. Garbage.
Which is why I seldom bother with your shat.

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Old 11-04-2017, 07:57 PM   #40
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