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Old 01-12-2008, 05:36 PM   #1
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Talking Giving Iraq Back to Saddam

And his followers.. The admission we were defeated by the resistance.
If you cant beat them you have to Hire them back.
LOL! 2 trillion dollars 40,000 casualties wounded and dead to hand the place back to the people we took it from...

Mission accomplished.. Baghdad bush!
Yes We sacrificed American troops to make sure Saddams People got a raise?


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The bill, approved Saturday by a unanimous show of hands, seeks to relax restrictions on the rights of members of the now-dissolved Baath party to fill government posts.

It is also designed to reinstate thousands of Baathists dismissed from government jobs after the U.S. invasion — a decision that deepened sectarian tensions between Iraq's majority Shiites and the once-dominant Sunni Arabs, who believed the firings targeted their community.

The strict implementation of so-called de-Baathification rules also meant that many senior bureaucrats who knew how to run ministries, university departments and state companies ended up unemployed in a country where 35 years of Baath party rule and extensive government involvement in the economy had left tens of thousands of party members in key positions.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:23 PM   #2
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They're hardly "Giving Iraq back to Saddam".

Whatever positions these Baathists are given surely won't come close to wielding the power the Shia have.

But still, this is actually very good news!

For too long the Shia majority have been too unwilling to negotiate with their former oppressors. However, it looks like finally they are willing to start putting aside their differences and start reconciling with the Sunni.

This is exactly (part of) what Iraq needs to become stabilized.

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Old 01-12-2008, 08:29 PM   #3
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Talking IT was stabilzed

When these guys had their jobs before.
Now they will follow the Orders of Sadr and The iranians
I'm sure that will be better for Ameriica. Lol.

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They're hardly "Giving Iraq back to Saddam".

Whatever positions these Baathists are given surely won't come close to wielding the power the Shia have.

But still, this is actually very good news!

For too long the Shia majority have been too unwilling to negotiate with their former oppressors. However, it looks like finally they are willing to start putting aside their differences and start reconciling with the Sunni.

This is exactly (part of) what Iraq needs to become stabilized.
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:33 PM   #4
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Following "De-Nazification" in 1945 eventually junior members of the party were allowed to take up jobs and return to positions of responsibilty. But by then the seeds of democracy had germinated..there is no going back for Germany are Iraqis so much more foolish?
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:37 PM   #5
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Was a democratic industrial power before th Nazis came to power. They were also predomintly christian ...

Germany basically fell into line with its surrounding nations of Europe.

Iraq will fall into line withits surrounding neighbors andculture and it will likely be Islamic Tribal and religous and have little or no industrial base.

I dont expect Iraq to look like Germany on any level ever.



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Following "De-Nazification" in 1945 eventually junior members of the party were allowed to take up jobs and return to positions of responsibilty. But by then the seeds of democracy had germinated..there is no going back for Germany are Iraqis so much more foolish?
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:32 PM   #6
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Question Will Iraq's Baath law aid settlement?

Iraq's parliament has approved a law that overlay the way for members of the Baath party to return to public life. Tens of thousands of Baath officials were dismissed from public institutions after Saddam Hussein, the former president, was removed from power in the US-led invasion of 2003 and barred from state employment. Will the new law ease sectarian tensions? What impact do you think the law will have?



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Old 01-13-2008, 05:38 PM   #7
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This "Iraqi" government is a complete joke, bunch of clowns running around robbing as much as they could knowing that they're not going to last in the position they're in. Why accept now when they rejected their recognitions in government positions in the past years? It only means how much of a failure this government and so is their officials, Condoleezza Rice goes there every now and then to yell at those clowns for not doing their "jobs".

Also NOT every Bathist committed or had any sort relations to the Mass killings done by the hight ranking officers, whom are in either Europe or States now. Bathists can try to give a hand, but its too late and most them are afraid of being kidnapped and pressured to step down or get killed. Unless the American forces leaves Iraq, there is no hope for peace or reducing civilian casualties.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:53 PM   #8
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What will help settlement, is the non interference of the US administration in the Middle East and to let citizens of the region sorting their mess or may be the Bush administration knows that if it doesn’t protect its dictators and puppets in the region, there will be a new Middle East that will look after the interests of the Middle Eastern citizen before the US interests via parliaments and consultative assemblies. The US administration is fully aware that democracy is not the way forward because citizens of the region will elect freely non corrupt elements and will work for the benefit of their citizens.

Furthermore, the Bush administration doesn’t want to see the Middle Eastern states investing their wealth on improving the quality of life of ordinary citizens but to have billions of dollars of dollars of their wealth wasted on on US military merchandise that will rust in years to come. They also want to see tensions between shia and Sunni and divided communities to justify their interference in Iraq.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:38 AM   #9
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Arrow Not all nazis were bad

Didnt we hire them after the war?

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This "Iraqi" government is a complete joke, bunch of clowns running around robbing as much as they could knowing that they're not going to last in the position they're in. Why accept now when they rejected their recognitions in government positions in the past years? It only means how much of a failure this government and so is their officials, Condoleezza Rice goes there every now and then to yell at those clowns for not doing their "jobs".

Also NOT every Bathist committed or had any sort relations to the Mass killings done by the hight ranking officers, whom are in either Europe or States now. Bathists can try to give a hand, but its too late and most them are afraid of being kidnapped and pressured to step down or get killed. Unless the American forces leaves Iraq, there is no hope for peace or reducing civilian casualties.
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