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Old 06-20-2017, 02:10 PM   #71
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So it's only terrorism if its aimed at you and what you stand for

If its against the 'other side' its just murder and attempted murder.


We need to get out if the mindset that you need to be aligned to a group or organisation to be deemed a terrorist and use the word as it is.

But ultimately it's just semantics, and this event plays right into their hands and is precisely what they wanted to happen but it was inevitable
No. Terrorism isn't targeted killing but is directed at tertiary targets that have nothing immediately to do with the stated goals and aims of the terrorist.

The attack on Finsbury mosque wasn't terrorism because it's obviously targeted. It's retalitary in nature.

The attacks on London Bridge and the Manchester Concert bombing are essentially random terrorist attacks. None of the people murdered had anything to do with the stated goal of turning the UK into Islamic land where Sharia law is the law of the land.

Finsbury Mosque has everything to do with radicalizing and supporting Islamist ideology. The attack on it's members is retalitary mass murder, it's a get back. There is nothing about the attacker to Finsbury Mosque that would make him a threat to the wider general public because he wasn't going after just anyone based on convenience. He wasn't targeting anything because it was a soft target or even really going for body count either. He was making a targeted hit which is much more like a mass assassination.

I know you'd rather relish in the hate whitey game because you finally have a whitey you can openly hate, but the reality is there is a huge difference between actual acts of terror and targeted mass murder... Everything about the dynamics involved is different or do you how fear that a random truck driven by a white guy is deliberately going to mow you down?
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:57 PM   #72
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What the fuck is the big deal about defining whether or not this was an act of terrorism.

Good grief, it was an act of MURDER. Regardless of the motives, it was fucking murder.

What has whether or not it was terrorism have to do with anything? How he's charged? Sentence is still going to be the same. Prison for a long, long time. Result is the same, dead people who were targeted for death by someone with some motive. Asshat still goes to prison if he/she doesn't die committing their act, and by the time they get out, if ever, they'll be too old to do shit, and too hated to be safe anywhere in Jolly Old....

Why does it have to be defined as terrorism, or not?

If the guy meant to strike fear in the hearts of mosque going muslims everywhere, then yes, it was terrorism, the idea of terrorism is to terrorize a population or group of people through random acts of violence and/or threats of violence.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:21 PM   #73
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ok so the IRA and UDA were just freedom fighters for a cause.

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Old 06-20-2017, 08:53 PM   #74
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What murder though, he didn't kill anyone.

"One man was found dead at the scene, according to police, Police said he was already receiving first aid when the attack unfolded."
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:02 PM   #75
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What murder though, he didn't kill anyone.

"One man was found dead at the scene, according to police, Police said he was already receiving first aid when the attack unfolded."
Oh yeah. LOL. Anyway, his intent was certainly murderous.

Same smell. Same rage. Same desired result by the perp, he wanted to murder people, his bungling the job doesn't make him any less a murderer, even if he technically failed.

But yeah, you're right, this guy didn't actually murder anyone. But fuck 'em, he's an angry killer in my book. He just failed, is all. Still spread misery and, dare I say it in this thread, a little terror around.

I'm just not surprised that, given the state of the world, people are striking back at Islam and Muslims in general.
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:22 PM   #76
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Does not help matters of truth that the bbc on its cbbc website says that islam translates as peace in old arabic, bollocks
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