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Old 06-14-2017, 10:25 AM   #11
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Lots of residents and witnesses say that the fancy new cladding whish was fitted last year carried the fire up and around the building.

Oh and fire alarms either not going off or very quiet

Residents saying that there was smoke alarms inside the individual flats but no 'mass evacuation' type alarm to waken up the whole block. No sprinkler systems either. I suspect evacuation alarms and sprinklers aren't fitted into blocks because the local yoot would just set them off for a laugh all the time. And you would think cladding has all sorts of regulations and safety standards for this very reason

Might have been somebody doing a bit of indoor horticulture! It looks like it started half way up so unlikely to be bin chutes, they normally get started at the bottom
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:37 AM   #12
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Residents saying that there was smoke alarms inside the individual flats but no 'mass evacuation' type alarm to waken up the whole block. No sprinkler systems either. I suspect evacuation alarms and sprinklers aren't fitted into blocks because the local yoot would just set them off for a laugh all the time. And you would think cladding has all sorts of regulations and safety standards for this very reason

Might have been somebody doing a bit of indoor horticulture! It looks like it started half way up so unlikely to be bin chutes, they normally get started at the bottom
Rumours that it was a 4th floor kitchen appliance failure

Agree re cladding but looking at the footage, the outside of that building acted like a ladder for the fire
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just listened to an interview with the chair of the residents council and he said that they were calling for an investigation into the contractors and the property management service because of fears of fire safety and poor work.

The local council refused and not only that, every single 'concern' reported was not investigated nor fixed: Emregency lights not working, fire alarm system not working, water inlets placed over fuse boxes the list went on

even threats of violence and intimidation by contractors


More details should hit the news over the next few days

shocking and very sad
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:34 AM   #14
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Seems the residents predicted this would happen:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpres...ing-with-fire/

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Old 06-14-2017, 11:36 AM   #15
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police and fire brigade told everyone to stay in their homes

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Very sad indeed. Saw this on the news last night and was amazed at how the fire was everywhere.

Heads are gonna roll, hopefully. It looked like every single fire code on the books was ignored from the way that fire engulfed so much of that building.
Scary shit.

RIP to those poor souls who didn't have a chance
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very fucked up
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I wonder how many more estate blocks are as bad as this....with no safety stuff...makes the mind boggle...though in one vid i did see building going on in the background...maybe check if the company that owns this block..owns the other development site...or has my mind gone totally LL?
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That's horrible. How did this happen?

UK Mirror has pics of the inside of the building.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...nfell-10621377

One woman threw her baby out the window but the story doesn't say if anyone caught the baby.

My heart goes out to all those who lost loved ones and all the injured.
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