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Old 06-27-2017, 06:48 PM   #11
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Single Payer government controlled healthcare from D.C. is the most inefficient way to actually make healthcare available and the absolute best way to politicize healthcare and corrupt the entire industry into nothing but a crony capitalist relationship to D.C. deep state.

It does not make sense to have 340 million in one plan all administered by D.C.
Spoken like one who does not recognize that what you have now is from the medical lobby groups who have bribed their way into laws that profit them and not the people.

That is your crony capitalism already at work.

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The OP is a false premise, that the 6% increase in GDP will translate into viable funding of a nationalized health care system; while ignoring the negatives about the national and governmental debt, inefficiency and corruption, and inflation.

And his source is a good example of why health care shouldn't be nationalized - PBS. Funded by the states and Federal government, it is constantly appealing for tax-free contributions to make up differences, bad book keeping, and rising costs.

Hell, just look at the VA, to see how our government would run our health care system.
That should be enough right there to scare off any and everybody from nationalized health care!
The 6% is not to fund health care. It is the savings when you compare the costs.

You might say that it is the extra cash you pay in taxes that go directly into the bribes that lobbyists give your politicians so that they can maintain the squeeze to the public.

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Old 06-28-2017, 02:25 AM   #13
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The 6% is not to fund health care. It is the savings when you compare the costs.

You might say that it is the extra cash you pay in taxes that go directly into the bribes that lobbyists give your politicians so that they can maintain the squeeze to the public.

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Sorry, Iam, after watching that report several times, that had no real economic foundation, your OP is a false premise. The so called savings aren't savings, but amortized debt over the life of the patient, while neglecting the full impact and growth of cost and loss I mentioned.

It all looks really good on paper, or video as the case may be, but it's not based in reality.
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Old 06-28-2017, 02:45 AM   #14
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Nationalized Healthcare COULD be an economic boon...or it could be a drag.
It all depends on how generously (or not) it is rationed.
Because make NO mistake about it...true universal healthcare is ONLY accomplished thru rationing. That;s the only way it works. Period.

But you CAN have a strictly rationed (i.e. barely adequate) universal healthcare AND a private one that exist side by side. A system like that COULD work and could be the best of both words.

Unfortunately, politicians in this country have absolutely no self control and universal healthcare would be too generous, and thus too costly. There would be no boon to the GDP.
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Its simple, the countries touting their so called better system depend on the money they receive from the US and other countries they're leeching to run it.
Take that away and watch the fun as they throw the media at us breaking some agreement they made.
Ah yes .. let the butt hurt flow.
It just may be covered.
LMFAO, What a load of fucking bollocks.

Australia doesn't take any money from the US to subsidise our Medicare scheme.

Fucking typical, 'the sun shines out of americas arse or it don't shine at all' attitude

Fuck america
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LMFAO, What a load of fucking bollocks.

Australia doesn't take any money from the US to subsidise our Medicare scheme.

Fucking typical, 'the sun shines out of americas arse or it don't shine at all' attitude

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Old 06-28-2017, 02:19 PM   #17
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Sorry, Iam, after watching that report several times, that had no real economic foundation, your OP is a false premise. The so called savings aren't savings, but amortized debt over the life of the patient, while neglecting the full impact and growth of cost and loss I mentioned.

It all looks really good on paper, or video as the case may be, but it's not based in reality.
My wallet says otherwise. But hey, if you like a system that will bankrupt you if you get sick, them ignore the better systems.

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Old 06-28-2017, 02:21 PM   #18
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Nationalized Healthcare COULD be an economic boon...or it could be a drag.
It all depends on how generously (or not) it is rationed.
Because make NO mistake about it...true universal healthcare is ONLY accomplished thru rationing. That;s the only way it works. Period.

But you CAN have a strictly rationed (i.e. barely adequate) universal healthcare AND a private one that exist side by side. A system like that COULD work and could be the best of both words.

Unfortunately, politicians in this country have absolutely no self control and universal healthcare would be too generous, and thus too costly. There would be no boon to the GDP.
True to a point. It may not work at all in the U.S., given the level of corruption in your system.

If it did your though, then your boon would be there.

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True to a point. It may not work at all in the U.S., given the level of corruption in your system.

If it did your though, then your boon would be there.

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You have just touch upon the most telling flaw of all universal health care systems.
How the collective imposes a false process upon human evolution.

IaM, you are driving over-population to extinction levels.
Justifying your own largest, for our extinction.

Death is for all, no matter the age.
Don't make us pay for your own struggle against it.
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You have just touch upon the most telling flaw of all universal health care systems.
How the collective imposes a false process upon human evolution.

IaM, you are driving over-population to extinction levels.
Justifying your own largest, for our extinction.

Death is for all, no matter the age.
Don't make us pay for your own struggle against it.
Poor puppy has to contribute to the whole of society. Boo hoo.

I see that doing unto others is something you do not do.

Let them eat cake.

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