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Old 06-24-2017, 09:22 PM   #1
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Default Apolitical armed forces

Obviously in a modern democracy the armed forces are apolitical and serve under whatever party is in power. Although, it appears Scotland is somewhat different. I give you the leader of the opposition in her shiny new work outfit sending a loyalist message.

I wish I was kidding;
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:46 PM   #2
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She was a member of the TA and therefore entitled to wear the uniform.
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Old 06-25-2017, 02:28 AM   #3
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I've always objected to the cammo being a utility uniform outside of a war zone.
There is no excuse to wear cammo, unless the military is at a declared war.
Utility dress or formal dress for everyday use.
The beret should only be issued to special forces only.
Common officers or enlisted personnel should not be allowed to wear the beret.
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Old 06-25-2017, 04:36 AM   #4
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I've always objected to the cammo being a utility uniform outside of a war zone.
There is no excuse to wear cammo, unless the military is at a declared war.
Utility dress or formal dress for everyday use.
The beret should only be issued to special forces only.
Common officers or enlisted personnel should not be allowed to wear the beret.
A military beret will distinguish what unit / regiment you are with or if you are attached to a certain brigade. The british military has lots of colours of berets and below is a list of which unit will wear which colour beret.

Maroon (Airborne Forces) The Maroon Beret is famously worn by the Parachute Regiment, also attached arms previously of 5 Airborne Brigade and now 16 Air Assualt Brigade. The Beret is also worn by the Elite Pathfinders. Commando Green (Commando Forces/Royal Marines) The Commando Green Beret is famously worn by the Royal Marines and Members of the Special Boat Squadron SBS however it is also worn by attached ranks to 3 Commando Brigade, Only those attached ranks who have passed the elite All Arms Commando Course are entitled to wear the Green Beret. Other than the Royal Marines it is likely to see Engineers from 24 Commando, Artillery from 29 Commando, RLC from Commando Logistic Regiment, Infantry from 1 Rifles, Royal Navy Commandos and certain other units wearing the Commando Green Beret. Black The Black Beret is worn by the British Military including the Royal Tank Regiment (RTR) and The Westminster Dragoons. UN Blue This colour is to be worn when on United Nations Peace Keeping Duties. AGC Green (Adjutant General's Corps).

Intelligence Corps - Cyprus Green (Intelligence Corps). Light Blue Army Air Corps (AAC) . Royal Air Force (RAF). Rifles - Rifle Green. The Dark (Rifle) Green Beret is worn by the Elite Rifles, the Small Arms School Corps (SASC),The Royal Ghurkha Rifles and the Essex Yeomanry among others. Khaki- The Khaki Beret is worn by the Scots Guards, Irish Guards, Grenadier Guards, Coldstream Guards, Welsh Guards, Honourable Artillery Company, 4/73 Special OP Battery (RA), Royal Gibralter Regiment, Yorkshire Regiment, Duke of Lancasters Regiment, Royal Welsh, Royal Anglian Regiment and Princess of Wales Royal Regiment, also attached arms to these regiments often use the Khaki Beret. Special Air Service (SAS) Sand The Biege / Sand Coloured Beret is famously worn by 22 SAS Special Air Service, it is also worn by 21 SAS and 23 SAS aswell as 264 (SAS) Signal Squadron and 63 (SAS) Signal Squadron (V), also attached arms who are not Special Forces trained wear this beret when serving with the SAS. Royal Military Police (RMP) Scarlet. Navy Blue The Navy Blue Beret is worn by the 9/12th Lancers, Army Legal Service, Corp of Army Music, Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers (REME), Royal Engineers, Light Dragoons, Queens Own Yeomanry, Royal Army Vetinary Corp (RAVC), Royal Signals, Royal Dragoon Guards, Royal Logistic Corp (RLC), Royal Artillery, Queens Dragoon Guards, The Royal Mercian and Lancastrian Yeomanry, Military Provost Staff (MPS), Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, C (City of London Fusiliers) Company, also several units wear the Navy Blue beret with a coloured patch including The Army Physical Training Corp (APTC), Royal Army Medical Corp (RAMC), Royal Army Dental Corp (RADC), The Blues and Royals and The Life Guards
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Old 06-25-2017, 04:41 AM   #5
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Besides.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...the-beret.html
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She was a member of the TA and therefore entitled to wear the uniform.
She was a telephone operator in the TA, and left, and has just been made an 'honorary' colonel. She also got kicked out of Sandhurst for failing the exams
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:54 PM   #7
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She was a telephone operator in the TA, and left, and has just been made an 'honorary' colonel. She also got kicked out of Sandhurst for failing the exams
So?
your op has questionable reasons, considering some other rambling postings it is hardly a surprise,
I did not fail to recognise cap badge and signals covers more than being a telephone operator,
three years service prior to being a politician is still damn more than most if not all on the other side of the house of commons,
lots of people fail the exams at Sandhurst 83% passed in 2011,,, your fucking point being????

The words 'full of fucking shite' spring to mind,,
here is the starting point for your next posting
Torys out out out.

well at least you got the name right this time,,, by not fucking using it,,
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Old 06-25-2017, 08:20 PM   #8
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The shockingly opportunistic Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has been cosplaying as a member of the army in a desperately cynical effort to drum up Tory support from current and former military personnel and their families.

You may wonder why you've never seen a UK politician adopt this cynical services cosplay tactic before (even Thatcher was wearing civilian clothes when she went on that tank) and the answer, as anyone who has ever served in the forces (or other uniformed public services like the police) will know, is that it's strictly against the rules to use your uniform to promote party political causes.

Here's the specific regulation:
Queen's regulations for the army: Occasions on which the Wearing of Uniform is Forbidden J5.368.b - "Uniform is not to be worn by prospective or adopted parliamentary candidates at political meetings, or while canvassing, appearing in public or engaged in any other activities connected with their candidature." [source]

If playing dress up in army uniforms wasn't banned in the UK as the kind of stuff that only happens in autocratic dictatorships, then we can all think of plenty of political opportunists from all sides of the political spectrum who would have absolutely loved to dress up like a Colonel Blimp and strut around for the TV cameras.

Politicians engaging in military uniform cosplay is so beyond the pale that even the likes of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson wouldn't go there, but Ruth Davidson is a different and far more dangerous kind of politician who just doesn't give a damn about the rules, or the fundamental importance of the army being perceived as a politically impartial force.

As far as she's concerned she's completely untouchable, and she can do whatever the hell she likes, even if that involves trying to appeal to services personnel by egregiously ignoring the rules that they have always had to comply with.

Aside from the fact Ruth Davidson should have known better, it's incredibly difficult to see what the 32 Signal Regiment thought they were doing by inviting Davidson to come and play dress up for the cameras too.

Inviting the leader of the Scottish Tory party to cosplay as a soldier badly damages the perceived political neutrality of the army, especially coming after a serving army general actually threatened that the armed forces would launch a military coup if Jeremy Corbyn is ever elected Prime Minister.

If your average soldier turned up at a party political event in their uniform or tried to give their political aspirations a boost by strutting around in uniform in front of the cameras, they'd be read the riot act for ignoring Queen's regulations, but Ruth Davidson firmly believes that she's far too important to follow Queen's regulations, so she can posture as a revolting Tory Saddam of Scotland without facing any consequences whatever.

Not only has she ignored the political impartiality rules that ordinary services personnel have to abide by, she's also part of a government that has put their beloved hard-right austerity dogma above the national interest by savagely cutting the army, and has an extraordinarily lax attitude towards caring for the thousands of former soldiers living in desperately unstable circumstances, or even in the streets.

One of the most sickening displays of Tory contempt for ex-services personnel came when the the former soldier David Clapson was sanctioned to absolute destitution and left to die by the DWP.

Still. Davidson imagines that the rank and file services personnel are gullible enough to forget about all of that as they go weak at the knees at the sight of her cosplaying as a soldier.

It's difficult to see how anyone who has ever served would not be furious about Ruth Davidson's disregard for Queen's regulations, and her glib self-serving opportunism.
It's because it's utterly cynical, it's dog whistle politics for the "fuck the Pope" loyalists
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Lol i thought this was going to be Mrs May in her Black Watch Tartan two piece suit again.
I could wear the Kilt of the same Tartan if i wanted, not that i ever have though
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We don't wear cammies off base, they are working uniforms meant to get dirty and beat up not to look pretty for others to see. Can't speak for the other branches, think theyre the same though.

Edit: Yeah you'd be in deep shit for going to any political event in ANY uniform much less camo.
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