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Old 07-24-2017, 03:53 AM   #21
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Mexican paying for the wall doesn't matter. What does matter is, if the wall has not been designed and construnction started well before 2020, trump doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting reelected. Period.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:44 PM   #22
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$1.6B a fully funded wall does not make. Trump himself said it'd be about $10B ("TRUMP: Oh Iím seeing numbers ó $24 billion, I think Iíll do it for $10 billion or less. "). Also, how long will it take, and how much more will it cost for the federal government to seize the private property along the border on which the fence will be built?

$100M to hire only 500 more border patrol agents? That's a huge scam! Doing the math, that's $200K per. Border patrol agents start at about $38K.

Sorry. Not buying it.
38 doesn't include training, insurance , ss match , retirement package ,uniforms , gear , added vehicles ,,,per person etc etc.

not saying what the actual math IS, but you can't just add up an employees take home and go by that.
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:06 PM   #23
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$1.6B a fully funded wall does not make. Trump himself said it'd be about $10B ("TRUMP: Oh I’m seeing numbers — $24 billion, I think I’ll do it for $10 billion or less. "). Also, how long will it take, and how much more will it cost for the federal government to seize the private property along the border on which the fence will be built?

$100M to hire only 500 more border patrol agents? That's a huge scam! Doing the math, that's $200K per. Border patrol agents start at about $38K.

Sorry. Not buying it.
Sure. Let's quibble about exactly how much what every aspect of the project will cost, find discrepancies (as if any project this size won't inevitably show discrepancies needing adjustment), and conclude that 'it can't be accomplished'. When opponents of welfare waste and social program abuses find huge numbers that add up poorly, it's 'politically motivated maneuvering....', but when political opponents of the Wall do it, it's...'objective analysis' suggesting that the Wall isn't feasible'? Please, sell it where they're buying. If you applied the same approach to the Panama Canal, discrepancies would immediately leap off any accountant's desk, as they would for the Manhattan Project, the Dept of Defense budget during the 1940s, any transcontinental railroad company's books, the VA, BIA, NSA, FBI, NASA, ....even the Smithsonian Museum's books. Yet they all function(ed) as intended. The numbers are a footnote to the accomplishments, nothing more.
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:32 PM   #24
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who is paying?

Ask the Germans or the israelis they know a few things about walls.
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:37 PM   #25
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Its all the left has now that its been funded... they need a negative to hype on.

I also focused on the promise of building of the wall ,not the hyperbole - hell just start enforcing the current laws, that would be an improvement.

Its really sad that as a nation we were able to mass produce a war machine to defeat the Axis Power in 4 years, but now we balk at the thought of building a fucking wall. Our ancestors are rolling in their graves.
no, it's just sucky to have to pay for something i don't even necessarily agree with. i feel like those of you who voted for him should be the ones to pay for it, you're the ones who wanted this so badly.
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no, it's just sucky to have to pay for something i don't even necessarily agree with. i feel like those of you who voted for him should be the ones to pay for it, you're the ones who wanted this so badly.
I'll pay for the wall if you pay for the everyone's health care, Deal?
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no, it's just sucky to have to pay for something i don't even necessarily agree with. i feel like those of you who voted for him should be the ones to pay for it, you're the ones who wanted this so badly.
This sentiment could probably be found among every single American voter with a conscience, on any side of the political spectrum.

I don't like funding certain things the government does, waddayagunnado? I think Mars missions are a waste of money that could be better spent here. You think money spent on the wall could be better spent. That's the way of this representative democracy.
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This sentiment could probably be found among every single American voter with a conscience, on any side of the political spectrum.

I don't like funding certain things the government does, waddayagunnado? I think Mars missions are a waste of money that could be better spent here. You think money spent on the wall could be better spent. That's the way of this representative democracy.
i think Mars missions are a waste of money, too.

but i think if illegals were such a big problem, the wall woulda been built years ago. like if they acted as disruptive as some citizens of this country do, the wall woulda been built years ago and there woulda been a huge crackdown years ago, imo.
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Old 07-25-2017, 03:47 AM   #29
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It's not "quibbling" about costs. Go take a look at the thread title. My point is simply that there fucking way that the wall is fully funded.

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Sure. Let's quibble about exactly how much what every aspect of the project will cost, find discrepancies (as if any project this size won't inevitably show discrepancies needing adjustment), and conclude that 'it can't be accomplished'. When opponents of welfare waste and social program abuses find huge numbers that add up poorly, it's 'politically motivated maneuvering....', but when political opponents of the Wall do it, it's...'objective analysis' suggesting that the Wall isn't feasible'? Please, sell it where they're buying. If you applied the same approach to the Panama Canal, discrepancies would immediately leap off any accountant's desk, as they would for the Manhattan Project, the Dept of Defense budget during the 1940s, any transcontinental railroad company's books, the VA, BIA, NSA, FBI, NASA, ....even the Smithsonian Museum's books. Yet they all function(ed) as intended. The numbers are a footnote to the accomplishments, nothing more.
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It's not "quibbling" about costs. Go take a look at the thread title. My point is simply that there fucking way that the wall is fully funded.
The wall is fully funded and will be built.
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