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Old 07-04-2012, 04:38 PM   #11
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:34 PM   #12
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Do i believe somthing deliberatly created this universe for us and had/has a direct influence over us no.


However If these guys had of been successful would you call them Deities?

http://www.casavaria.com/sentido/sci...w-universe.htm

Because if the answers yes... Then maybe.
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:21 PM   #13
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And who created this creator? Pretty nonsensical cliche of a question, don't ya think?

Little early for you to have been that drunk, Sean.....









.......or were you STILL drunk from the night before? Are those empty Strongbow cans I hear rolling across the floor?
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:49 AM   #14
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It's all an illusion.

In other words, outside the universe, there is no time. If there's no time then there's no beginning and no end. If there's no beginning nor end then that entirely nullfifies the need for a creator and/or the creator's creator. We live within the universe which is binded by time, which is all part of the illusion.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:56 AM   #15
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I AM THAT I AM
~ Exodus 3:13-14


There is a thing confusedly formed,
Born before heaven and earth.
Silent and void
It stands alone and does not change,
Goes round and does not weary.
It is capable of being the mother of the world.
I know not its name
So I style it 'the way'.

I give it the makeshift name of 'the great'.
Being great, it is further described as receding,
Receding, it is described as far away,
Being far away, it is described as turning back.

Hence the way is great;
Heaven is great;
Earth is great;
The king is also great.
Within the realm there are four things that are great,
And the king counts as one.

Man models himself on earth,
Earth on heaven,
Heaven on the way,
And the way on that which is naturally so.

--- Tao Te Ching, Ch. 25 trans. D.C. Lau


Brahma-Asmi (I am Brahman)
--- Vedas


The whole world says that my way is vast and resembles nothing.
It is because it is vast that it resembles nothing.
If it resembled anything, it would, long before now, have become small.
--- Tao Te Ching, Ch 67 trans. D.C. Lau
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:17 AM   #16
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Nope
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No.
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Your questions don't make sense as you misuse words like theist and higher being. No doubt your liberal/erroneous/ambiguous use of those words is done on purpose to help you put forward yet another nonsensical argument.

Anyway, 'no' is the answer. We already know how we and the world around us came to be. And like Laplace said, we're able to explain all that without the god hypothesis. Or like I would say, without the need of a supernatural genie living above the clouds.
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No evidence shows we were created. None at all. Who's the crazy one?
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No. The questions remain the same. What was the first cause?

If an omnipotent magical wizard started the Universe, than who created the omnipotent magical wizard?

Although deistic beliefs are more practical than theistic beliefs, they still raise more questions than they answer.
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no.
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It's not only impossible but insane to believe that a single life force could be responsible for the entire universe. But what is worse than that is people that would would believe this fairy tale while scoffing on other obvious issues such as Bigfoot and Aliens.
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is it some kind of trick question because there is nothing like a 100% certainty?
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define deity
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Do i believe somthing deliberatly created this universe for us and had/has a direct influence over us no.
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And who created this creator? Pretty nonsensical cliche of a question, don't ya think?
See above. ^

If a lifeform was needed to create life then a lifeform
couldn't come along and create life in the first place.

If you believe that the first ever lifeform was ultimately
complex / popped into existence / created the universe
by willing it, then you shouldn't really have any problem
believing in simple life or bacteria existing independently.

Accepting the possibility of all things is fair enough to me
but without weighing up the probability of them too? Nah.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:44 PM   #17
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The question was: Do You Believe in the Possibility of a Non Theist Deity?
No.

It's not possible for obvious reasons.

Religious people consider it not possible for single cell amoebas to evolve independently over millions of years under the perfect environmental conditions - yet we are supposed to consider it possible that a magical, omnipotent wizard can exist outside of Space and Time, and have always existed - and never been created - and have finite magical power - for no reason or cause whatsoever?

If it's possible for that Wizard to exist - it's also possible for abiogenesis to be the starting point of Life on Earth. And seeing as everything from that single cell amoeba to Homo Sapiens can be explained by evolutionary biology - that very 'possibility' should make God utterly obsolete.
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Yes, i believe that a deity is possible, but that the possibility has probability zero.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:56 PM   #20
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Yes, i believe that a deity is possible, but that the possibility has probability zero.

What was the probability of the big bang before it happened?
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