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Old 09-03-2017, 03:37 PM   #11
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The EU has no say over who migrates into a member state from another part of the world (from non EU country that is) and it sure can't force member states to take refugees.
Is that why Poland and Hungary are being threatened with economic sanctions if they continue to refuse Islamic immigration?

Amazing how far western Europe has fallen when Poland and Hungary are being more sensible than we are. They've seen the no-go zones and terrorism in France, Germany, Sweden and the UK and said "no thanks".

What Poland needs to do is tell Germany to go ahead with the economic sanctions... but first they owe Poland trillions of Euros for murdering 25-33% of their population and looting the country bare 70-years ago.
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:09 PM   #12
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Is that why Poland and Hungary are being threatened with economic sanctions if they continue to refuse Islamic immigration?

Amazing how far western Europe has fallen when Poland and Hungary are being more sensible than we are. They've seen the no-go zones and terrorism in France, Germany, Sweden and the UK and said "no thanks".

What Poland needs to do is tell Germany to go ahead with the economic sanctions... but first they owe Poland trillions of Euros for murdering 25-33% of their population and looting the country bare 70-years ago.
EU is not asking them (+Czech Republic) to grant asylum to these migrants/refugees, just to share the burden of the frontline migrant crisis states Italy and Greece under the EU principle of solidarity and the European Commission’s relocation plan.

These countries are among the biggest net receivers of EU funding (Poland is the biggest), it can't be that they just cherry-pick what they like from the EU rules.
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:08 PM   #13
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EU is not asking them (+Czech Republic) to grant asylum to these migrants/refugees, just to share the burden of the frontline migrant crisis states Italy and Greece under the EU principle of solidarity and the European Commissionís relocation plan.

These countries are among the biggest net receivers of EU funding (Poland is the biggest), it can't be that they just cherry-pick what they like from the EU rules.
And the EU is supposed to be an economic union, not an authoritan central government that can put sanctions on member states because their governments want to protect their people from Islamic terrorism and rape gangs - things which are present in every nation with even just a few thousand Muslims.

Fuck the EU.
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And the EU is supposed to be an economic union, not an authoritan central government that can put sanctions on member states because their governments want to protect their people from Islamic terrorism and rape gangs - things which are present in every nation with even just a few thousand Muslims.

Fuck the EU.

These countries agreed back in 2015 on a legally binding deal to relocate refugees, now they want to back out of their commitment. (Incidentally, U.K., Denmark and Ireland have opt-outs on that deal). What other sanctions besides economic could the European Commission use against a member state that refuses to fulfill its obligations? Just like the American Federal Government uses money; states must comply with Federal policy to be eligible for Federal funding programs.

I come from net contributing EU country so I have an interest in where my tax money goes. If these countries don't wanna play by the rules, fuck'em, take my money out.

Oh! Good luck and godspeed UK!
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Old 09-03-2017, 11:04 PM   #15
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These countries agreed back in 2015 on a legally binding deal to relocate refugees, now they want to back out of their commitment. (Incidentally, U.K., Denmark and Ireland have opt-outs on that deal). What other sanctions besides economic could the European Commission use against a member state that refuses to fulfill its obligations? Just like the American Federal Government uses money; states must comply with Federal policy to be eligible for Federal funding programs.

I come from net contributing EU country so I have an interest in where my tax money goes. If these countries don't wanna play by the rules, fuck'em, take my money out.

Oh! Good luck and godspeed UK!
When they agreed to these legally binding refugee deals back in 2015, did they realize that Angela Merkel was about to import millions of knuckle dragging rapists and hardcore Islamists into Europe?

I think the most likely scenario here is that Poland and Hungary and whoever else that is now refusing to take their "fair share" of "refugees" believed they were agreeing to a sensible amount of refugees, not hundreds of thousands (or millions) of knuckle dragging rapists and hardcore islamists.

I'm delighted they're breaking their agreements, I hope Britain breaks them too if we haven't already. Leave the knuckle draggers and islamists in Germany. Merkel wants them. She wants 1.1 million per year. The Germans obviously want to ruin Europe a third time - I want them to endure the full brunt of their mistakes and not ship them to Poland, Hungary, Czech, Britain or any other nation.

Divide them between Sweden and Germany, they are both committed to seeing their own people raped into submission.
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Anarchists are violent, not antifa. I understand your media likes to combine the 2. But that's propaganda. Either way, neither are as violent as white nationalists.
Even if any of that was anywhere true it would still amount to tacit approval of violence
You are a very small very insignificant hypocrite
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Yeah, even the Democrats are starting to admit Antifa are violent nasty people. Even inevitab1e is starting to pretend he knew they were violent all along (even though he specifically denied it over and over again throughout the last year, which you can see in many threads (unless he deleted/edited his posts)).
They have to now. If Pelosi and company could keep on ignoring antifa's existence, they would. The problem is the Department of Homeland Security labeled Antifa a domestic terrorist organization and the FBI reported that Antifa is the primary source of violence at political assemblies. Since that label and the FBI report are out in public, they have to denounce it in order to win midterm elections. If they don't, they'll be pummeled with it in the local elections.

Pelosi came out and condemned Antifa while Paul Ryan was still leaping to the defense of an organization that was regularly beating up his party's base. Pelosi had to do it because she's in California and after what happened in Berkeley, Laguna Beach etc, either she condemns it or it becomes a political liability to her re-election.

They aren't condemning it because they aren't in favor of political violence. It's a matter of winning re-election.
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EU is not asking them (+Czech Republic) to grant asylum to these migrants/refugees, just to share the burden of the frontline migrant crisis states Italy and Greece under the EU principle of solidarity and the European Commission’s relocation plan.

These countries are among the biggest net receivers of EU funding (Poland is the biggest), it can't be that they just cherry-pick what they like from the EU rules.
This comment in bold contradicts itself in so many ways, it's entire concept is an oxymoron.

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The EU has no say over who migrates into a member state from another part of the world (from non EU country that is) and it sure can't force member states to take refugees.
So you say the EU isn't trying to pressure nations, then when told other wise, you turn around and give the first quote above, which didn't exactly help your situation any better.

So in other words, you're saying that since they have a pact with the EU, the EU has the right to threaten and sanction them should they refuse EU orders to share the burden. BUT, the EU isn't trying to force their agenda on any nation. Gotcha. Way to defend the European Union thar buddy. More water pls.

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They have to now. If Pelosi and company could keep on ignoring antifa's existence, they would. The problem is the Department of Homeland Security labeled Antifa a domestic terrorist organization and the FBI reported that Antifa is the primary source of violence at political assemblies. Since that label and the FBI report are out in public, they have to denounce it in order to win midterm elections. If they don't, they'll be pummeled with it in the local elections.

Pelosi came out and condemned Antifa while Paul Ryan was still leaping to the defense of an organization that was regularly beating up his party's base. Pelosi had to do it because she's in California and after what happened in Berkeley, Laguna Beach etc, either she condemns it or it becomes a political liability to her re-election.

They aren't condemning it because they aren't in favor of political violence. It's a matter of winning re-election.
Kinda funny how yet again, something comes back to bite the Democrats in the ass. At first they and their Democrat media spoke so well of these masked thugs, calling them anything but what they actually were.

I wish the RINOS in the Republican Party would feel a few stings more often as well. I'm not saying i wish McCain would just hurry and die. I'm just saying i wish McCain would just hurry and die.
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This comment in bold contradicts itself in so many ways, it's entire concept is an oxymoron.



So you say the EU isn't trying to pressure nations, then when told other wise, you turn around and give the first quote above, which didn't exactly help your situation any better.

So in other words, you're saying that since they have a pact with the EU, the EU has the right to threaten and sanction them should they refuse EU orders to share the burden. BUT, the EU isn't trying to force their agenda on any nation. Gotcha. Way to defend the European Union thar buddy. More water pls.

I'm saying EU is holding them to a deal they freely entered into. And like I said before, two member states are being inundated by illegal migrants and need help dealing with the crises. Solidarity is one of the fundamental values and principles of the European Union. These former communist countries seem to have forgotten that, while being happy receiving hundreds of millions in EU funding.
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