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Old 10-01-2017, 09:07 PM   #11
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Comes to something when the police are also beating firefighters.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:37 AM   #12
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A comment on this movement by French Liveleaker 'Saint-Ange'. So is he right? Why are most European and Western leftist media siding with the protesters?

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first these guys willing their independence are leftists and pro migrants, hence the protégés of the EU. the mass media news in France are at this very moment associating with the separatists. these medias are totally under the control of the EU so they surely wouldn't side with something that goes against the EU integrity.

thus despite what it could look like this independence movement is even more EU. it's a region leaving a nation but not the EU. an attempt to create the first one of the new states that are going to replace the nations within the EU on the path, a race even, against the growing nationalisms, toward the federalization and the merge of the governments, polices, armies into their sole respective entities.

we're witnessing the beginning of the creation of the new states of Europe to replace the nations. these will resemble more to the German Länders than the American states.

the EU strategy comes down to use the regionalism against the nationalism to deal with smaller and mechanically more dependent entities, while sparing, unlike before, the sense of belonging. - Saint-Ange
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:08 AM   #13
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The EU encouraging catalonia claims of independence while telling the spanish gov it cant happen? I dont know, what would you call that? Playing two sides against each other, yea probably.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:19 PM   #14
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The EU encouraging catalonia claims of independence while telling the spanish gov it cant happen? I dont know, what would you call that? Playing two sides against each other, yea probably.
Of the EU is just hedging it's bet until the outcome becomes more clear.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:55 PM   #15
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A comment on this movement by French Liveleaker 'Saint-Ange'. So is he right? Why are most European and Western leftist media siding with the protesters?
Interesting question.
Independence?
Normally, I would side with the separatists, if the voting was done properly and monitored.
Power should be with the people and not with the "EU or by and for just elites of any kind".
However, if this is just so that "NE Spain" becomes more part of the EU, which it shouldn't,
then that is another story entirely.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:10 PM   #16
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When did this become an EU matter?
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When did this become an EU matter?
Lol. Interfering wankers are having "crisis meetings" as we speak. This is why the Brexit deal went though. "How dare the people have a voice?"

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Old 10-02-2017, 07:05 PM   #18
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Lol. Interfering wankers are having "crisis meetings" as we speak. This is why the Brexit deal went though. "How dare the people have a voice?"

Fuckem!
LOL! What "Brexit deal"? I've noticed British media has recently been full of stories about how to prepare for a "no deal" Brexit. Trust me, you don't want that to happen.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:38 PM   #19
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LOL! What "Brexit deal"? I've noticed British media has recently been full of stories about how to prepare for a "no deal" Brexit. Trust me, you don't want that to happen.
I meant the deal between the UK government and the populace. What you're suggesting will not happen, we are a huge market for Europe, one that they can't ignore no matter how much they want to. You really think that the likes of the German car manufacturers and the Japanese car manufacturers in the UK, would let that happen? Not in a million years mate.
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I meant the deal between the UK government and the populace. What you're suggesting will not happen, we are a huge market for Europe, one that they can't ignore no matter how much they want to. You really think that the likes of the German car manufacturers and the Japanese car manufacturers in the UK, would let that happen? Not in a million years mate.
We'll see. For example now that PSA bought Opel and Vauxhall from GM, I think they will let Vauxhall remain British like they stated, but wouldn't put any money on Opel manufacturing staying in UK.
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