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Old 06-24-2018, 05:28 AM   #1
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Default Pantheisim, Panentheism, Cosmotheism

Let us start with simple definitions and discourse.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmotheism


Pantheism goes back thousands of years.
Danism, Hinduism, and the Buddha.
Yet looking at history we see the Aryans and Chins have destroyed these great beliefs for their own benefit.
Even in the Americas we see pantheism corrupted by human sacrifice, for the royal power elite.


Now come to the Catholic apologist Spinoza, that creates the violent difference between the corporal and the infinite.
Ibn Said and many Hindus came to the same conclusion.
Death flowed for hundreds of years.

Then we come to Hegel, and Marx.
Rearing the ugly head of social extinction, under any name wanted.

Splintered across many, so many, corrupt and vile philosophies and so-called theologies.


I reject all theologians, because they are flawed, as imperfect as I am.
It is a vanity, a bigotry, a bias for an individual, no matter the learning, training, or so-called wisdom.
Just as flawed, just as imperfect.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:36 PM   #2
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Let us start with simple definitions and discourse.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmotheism


Pantheism goes back thousands of years.
Danism, Hinduism, and the Buddha.
Yet looking at history we see the Aryans and Chins have destroyed these great beliefs for their own benefit.
Even in the Americas we see pantheism corrupted by human sacrifice, for the royal power elite.


Now come to the Catholic apologist Spinoza, that creates the violent difference between the corporal and the infinite.
Ibn Said and many Hindus came to the same conclusion.
Death flowed for hundreds of years.

Then we come to Hegel, and Marx.
Rearing the ugly head of social extinction, under any name wanted.

Splintered across many, so many, corrupt and vile philosophies and so-called theologies.


I reject all theologians, because they are flawed, as imperfect as I am.
It is a vanity, a bigotry, a bias for an individual, no matter the learning, training, or so-called wisdom.
Just as flawed, just as imperfect.
The gods are into dark humor
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:48 PM   #3
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Let us start with simple definitions and discourse.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmotheism


Pantheism goes back thousands of years.
Danism, Hinduism, and the Buddha.
Yet looking at history we see the Aryans and Chins have destroyed these great beliefs for their own benefit.
Even in the Americas we see pantheism corrupted by human sacrifice, for the royal power elite.


Now come to the Catholic apologist Spinoza, that creates the violent difference between the corporal and the infinite.
Ibn Said and many Hindus came to the same conclusion.
Death flowed for hundreds of years.

Then we come to Hegel, and Marx.
Rearing the ugly head of social extinction, under any name wanted.

Splintered across many, so many, corrupt and vile philosophies and so-called theologies.


I reject all theologians, because they are flawed, as imperfect as I am.
It is a vanity, a bigotry, a bias for an individual, no matter the learning, training, or so-called wisdom.
Just as flawed, just as imperfect.
Any Theology or Philosophy or Ideology is only as good as it actually matches and reflects reality.

What makes any of them "vile" is only in their propensity to distort the truth away from actual reality.

What is flawed and is imperfect is just the lenses of Human perception of which if they were actually cleansed would see reality as it really is of which is both perfect, without flaws, and it is just totally amazing and wonderful and mysterious and is both alive and eternally creative.

See:
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:54 PM   #4
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The gods are into dark humor
Actually, "The Gods" ARE just DARK HUMOR.
Fictions to rule the ignorant and superstitious.

"GOD" is the COSMOS and the CREATOR, itself!
You are just a part of it, and actually do co-create with it.
How?
By using your own mind and your own consciousness of being.
That is how.

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Old 06-26-2018, 02:06 AM   #5
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Actually, "The Gods" ARE just DARK HUMOR.
Fictions to rule the ignorant and superstitious.

"GOD" is the COSMOS and the CREATOR, itself!
You are just a part of it, and actually do co-create with it.
How?
By using your own mind and your own consciousness of being.
That is how.

Banana?
You seem to think you have some authority or special enlightenment or some such
I understood the concepts you talk of in the 1970s when I was into Science fiction
You are religious, you need to push these theories zealously
I am not religious and understand that in all probability your theories are a long way wide of the mark, that in 2000 years your religion will be added to the long line of primitive postulations of men who could not bare the thought that there are questions that they could not answer
And so they invented thier respective religions just as your cosmocultists have done
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:20 AM   #6
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Any Theology or Philosophy or Ideology is only as good as it actually matches and reflects reality.

What makes any of them "vile" is only in their propensity to distort the truth away from actual reality.
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What is flawed and is imperfect is just the lenses of Human perception of which if they were actually cleansed would see reality as it really is of which is both perfect, without flaws, and it is just totally amazing and wonderful and mysterious and is both alive and eternally creative.
Thank you for responding Paul.
I think you know that I intentionally started this thread to bring you into a conversation of your hypothesis and theories.
Notice I color highlighted each of your statements.
I hope to address each in turn.


Observation and perception creates 'reality'.
See 'Schrodinger's Cat', or the metaphysics of 'Trans-perception'.
The prefix means the 1st definition 'across', and no other.
Thus by extension, a 'trans-perceptive' reality, does not define existence or consciousness.



As we know, 'reality' is subjective, limited, finite.
There is no 'actual', or 'true' reality.
It is observation and perception that determines reality,
before reality is to be.


This paragraph is circular logic.
But quite emotive.


Paul, I want to get across to you that what Dr. Pierce advocates is nothing unique in the perversion of Pantheism, Panentheism.
Been going on for millennia.


Think about where Cosmotheism is taking you.
If anywhere, if at all.
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You seem to think you have some authority or special enlightenment or some such
I understood the concepts you talk of in the 1970s when I was into Science fiction
You are religious, you need to push these theories zealously
I am not religious and understand that in all probability your theories are a long way wide of the mark, that in 2000 years your religion will be added to the long line of primitive postulations of men who could not bare the thought that there are questions that they could not answer
And so they invented thier respective religions just as your cosmocultists have done
You really do have no real clue of what you are "chattering" about whatsoever.
There are many questions which are inherently unknowable and unanswerable.

True Cosmotheism is anti-cultist and your ignorance of that fact all proves that
you are delusional.
What else isn't new?

Banana?

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You really do have no real clue of what you are "chattering" about whatsoever.
There are many questions which are inherently unknowable and unanswerable.

True Cosmotheism is anti-cultist and your ignorance of that fact proves that you are delusional.
What else isn't new?

Banana?
There isn’t a cult on earth that wouldn’t make that claim
Today’s Psychological projection award goes to potatwo
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There isn’t a cult on earth that wouldn’t make that claim
Today’s Psychological projection award goes to potatwo
Ooooh oooh aaaaahaaaa!
NSS!

But true Cosmotheism is actually anti-cultist and anti-Tyranny.
Clueless primitive primate.
What else isn't new?

Banana?

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Thank you for responding Paul.
I think you know that I intentionally started this thread to bring you into a conversation of your hypothesis and theories.
Notice I color highlighted each of your statements.
I hope to address each in turn.


Observation and perception creates 'reality'.
See 'Schrodinger's Cat', or the metaphysics of 'Trans-perception'.
The prefix means the 1st definition 'across', and no other.
Thus by extension, a 'trans-perceptive' reality, does not define existence or consciousness.



As we know, 'reality' is subjective, limited, finite.
There is no 'actual', or 'true' reality.
It is observation and perception that determines reality,
before reality is to be.


This paragraph is circular logic.
But quite emotive.


Paul, I want to get across to you that what Dr. Pierce advocates is nothing unique in the perversion of Pantheism, Panentheism.
Been going on for millennia.


Think about where Cosmotheism is taking you.
If anywhere, if at all.
You are welcome.
Ok.
But you have already made a few false assumptions and false presumptions.

For example, in Royal Blue and in Sandy Brown, it is correct if you change it to
"co-creates" our reality.
Subjectively.

Consciousness is the ground of All Being and is Reality
that is inherently in All Being.
That is Objectively.

The only circular logic has been of your own misunderstanding of Reality,
and as also your such of what Dr. Pierce was "actually advocating" verses
how it is all perverted and portrayed by his enemies and detractors and by
"some" that still do falsely claim to speak for him and for his religion today.

True Cosmotheism takes you within your true self all from where all truth alone resides!

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