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Old 02-28-2017, 08:24 AM   #1
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Good fucking documentary. That's all i gotta say.
It will raise some questions. And then again it will reinforce older beliefs.

Whatever it is, it will make you think.

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Raise questions? Not really.
Young males will always be oppressed by society,
when that very society is female centrist.
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Raise questions? Not really.
Young males will always be oppressed by society,
when that very society is female centrist.
Yeah...!
Fuck them females! Titties and all!!!!
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Old 02-28-2017, 11:37 PM   #4
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I don't even know where to begin........It was a provoking film, not necessarily thought provoking.

The funniest part was when the legal activist characterized the Republican woman who was expressing her doubts about voting against the law that makes it easier for juvenile defenders to be paroled. I was ready for the lefty to start calling her the female incarnation of Dr.Evil sprinkling hatred dust against boys who get in trouble. That guy was a total SJW wacko!

Oh wait, Jarad's lawyer at the end, questioning the police officer. Are you fn kidding me?? They paid $20,000 for that?!?!?!? I'm not sure step dad really wanted Jarad out.

oh and Jarad's apology letter...... I don't even have words to describe what an asshole letter that was.
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Raise questions? Not really.
Young males will always be oppressed by society,
when that very society is female centrist.
*I noticed the only family with a real dad in the family picture, was the illegal immigrant MS13 family from El Salvador. oh wait, there was the brief appearance by the Dad of the boy that spends a whole day on the project.

*I don't think it's the result of a female centrist society as much as the "moms" here are choosing some awful sex partners. Are women like this in some kind of competition to see how low they can go and still wind up pregnant? Didn't lefties promise us that abortion and birth control were going to solve this problem?

*So, little Antonio was let out, went right back to crime, got arrested again but had an opportunity to make an even littler Antonio. And Cycle repeat.
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Thanks for sharing the documentary tRauma. I'm not exactly sure why I feel sorry for the film maker, but I do.
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Make me think? About what? My past? I did my time of raw deals and rejection and through all that and more I never lost my sense of direction.
I stayed away from drugs and booze and I made it.
I pulled my knowledge and experience together with others like me and built a business and did it without the banks and lenders.
And that was tough too, no don't sit there and tell about those poor morons that want a better life they simply have no direction other than drugs and booze.
That's what the democrats have done they created it all with what to show for it, this?
There should be night schools for business or centers for meeting to organize anything other than protests.
What .. health care? Yeah right, treatment that's it where do you go from there.
BS career democrats and republicans with their programs and promises the democrats by far the worst they took away far more than they ever gave.
Trump knows the score and the directions needed to build a county he knows what is needed to get the people going again and he knows it will take time but its time well placed and spent for a shot at a future.
And these bleeding hearts in hollywood are supporting and selling this crap?
Yeah right .. you want to think?
Thinking don't cut it, they cant think for themselves without the support to put them in a decent direction.
The support they get now does nothing for them but promise things never delivered let alone some small degree of forward positive results so there they are selling out for the vote and for what .. food stamps?

Fuck the career politicians. put there asses out on the street with nothing and watch them try to build another scam .. they're the ones that have to go to prison and do the full time not the time they have passed as laws under their administrations.
Give the people direction and a shot with the proper programs I would gladly support that with both money and time.
But this BS .. round the real perps up and make them all pay .. they certainly have the money.
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Make me think? About what? My past? I did my time of raw deals and rejection and through all that and more I never lost my sense of direction.
I stayed away from drugs and booze and I made it.
I pulled my knowledge and experience together with others like me and built a business and did it without the banks and lenders.
And that was tough too, no don't sit there and tell about those poor morons that want a better life they simply have no direction other than drugs and booze.
That's what the democrats have done they created it all with what to show for it, this?
There should be night schools for business or centers for meeting to organize anything other than protests.
What .. health care? Yeah right, treatment that's it where do you go from there.
BS career democrats and republicans with their programs and promises the democrats by far the worst they took away far more than they ever gave.
Trump knows the score and the directions needed to build a county he knows what is need edto get the people going again and he knows it will take time but its time well placed and spent for a shot at a future.
And these bleeding hearts in hollywood are supporting and selling this crap?
Yeah right .. you want to think?
Thinking don't cut it, they cant think for themselves without the support to put them in a decent direction.
The support they get now does nothing for them but promise things never delivered let alone some small degree of forward positive results so there they are selling out for the vote and for what .. food stamps?

Fuck the career politicians. put there asses out on the street with nothing and watch then try to build another scam .. they're the ones that have to go to prison and do the full time not the time they have passed as laws under their administrations.
Give the people direction and a shot with the proper programs I would gladly support that with both money and time.
But this BS .. round the real perps up and make them all pay.
I think half the people in this film are still struggling with the basic realization of cause and effect. Some in the film would have us believe it's because juvenile brains are "different" but I'm pretty sure these "boys" brains are permanently "different".

tRauma, one good thing about the documentary because I did enjoy it. No, really, I did. It was refreshing that, for a change, I was wrong about what I suspected it would be. I was expecting the same old, same old pablum about these poor boys are good kids and society did them wrong and it's an injustice to allow these bright, talented boys to languish in prison when they could easily, effectively and completely, be rehabilitated. Oh and the obligatory race statistics as we focus on the race of the boys and the racism in the criminal justice system. Instead, the filmmaker honestly portrays how he worked with the kids on the project and didn't edit out the parts when they got on each other's nerves. He also accurately portrayed what the "freed" kid did without making excuses, covering it up, putting it in a barely readable print at the end or advocating for a SJW program that would "end recidivism". He doesn't make any excuses for the boys or attempt to lead them to explain away their crimes in poignant, teary scenes where they're basically fed a script. I do feel sorry for the families but in some ways, I think these families might be better off not having these "boys" around.

I want to know what you think though, tRauma, what ways did it change your perception or reinforce your opinions? The one major opinion of mine that changed was, like I said, this doesn't fit the usual "woe is me, society is evil, we need a program" documentary.
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oh myohmy......

First review I read after watching the documentary goes full on SJW......

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The members of these gangs are as much victims as they are perpetrators, willfully ignored by a society that has allowed the problems in their communities to fester indefinitely. How can youth be expected to rehabilitate when they have no resources at their disposal? Lear takes this question and weaves it into the greater proposal made by Senate Bill 260, which seeks to give offenders, who committed a crime as minors, the opportunity to work toward parole.
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Yet I believe there’s an alternate cut of the film that could’ve easily been contained within the prison itself, focusing solely on the sessions between the juveniles and screenwriting teacher Gabriel Cowan. An accomplished filmmaker in his own right, Cowan is also on the Board of Directors at InsideOUT Writers, a nonprofit that conducts writing classes at juvenile halls. He has volunteered to help these kids craft a script inspired by their own experiences, which he will subsequently direct as a short film. Anytime the documentary cut away from this narrative thread, my heart sank, and with the running time barely clocking in at 80 minutes, it left me wanting many more scenes between Cowan and the kids. What he is giving them is an outlet not only for their creativity, but for their pent-up emotions that would normally lead them toward making bad choices
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If there were more programs like InsideOUT Writers existing outside of prisons, less kids would likely be susceptible to the seduction of gangs. Looking back on his multiple awards for academic excellence and inclusion on the Honor Roll, Juan wonders aloud how he wound up behind bars
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1) No, these gang members are not victims of "society". They are perpetrators of violence. If anything, it shows that we need more law enforcement in the neighborhoods these kids come from.
2) If creative outlets for emotion were the secret key to end gang violence and murders, street graffiti would have already accomplished that goal.
3) Juan wound up behind bars because there's video of him shooting another human being three times point blank with no immediate provocation. There could be a secondary reason too though - his family is an organized MS13 crime family from El Salvador that came to America illegally.

Is there a reason why liberals always have to focus on society's sins and art programs as the solution (absolution?) of society's sins? I'm beginning to think these right wingers who say liberalism is a mental disorder are right.
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Hitler was a cute little boy at one time . .
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