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Old 01-24-2013, 12:23 AM   #41
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Catalonia moves closer to independence referendum

While it doesn't seem to be quite as dramatic as some headlines are suggesting, Catalonian separatists have taken a major step toward a potential split from Spain:

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The non-binding and largely symbolic resolution - which states that the people of Catalonia have a democratic right to decide on their sovereignty - was passed with 85 votes for, 41 against and two abstentions in the 135-seat legislature. Two deputies were absent and five refused to vote.
The resolution was softened somewhat to appease several parties, removing a reference to a "new state" but it does seem to open the door toward a referendum on independence -- a move that the Spanish government argues would be unconstitutional.

It also seems significant that the resolution was jointly presented by the ruling Convergence and Union party and the opposition Republican Left Party. While both are separatist parties, they stand on opposite sides of the political spectrum on other issues and many had questioned whether they'd be able to work together.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/...nce_referendum
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:53 PM   #42
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:13 PM   #43
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Do you guys Grant dual citizenships? Will pay taxes and pay for football Tickets, tapas and will keep my towels at home!
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:25 PM   #44
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Ja, mein herr!
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:08 PM   #45
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I cant wait...it will break Spain and the euro crisis might finally come to a head!
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So what will these mean military wise for an Independent Catalonia..?
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So what will these mean military wise for an Independent Catalonia..?
Undecided. Some might want a military, some might not and some might want a defense pact ala Andorra or Iceland. Personally I'm not that bothered about it whatever the decision.
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Undecided. Some might want a military, some might not and some might want a defense pact ala Andorra or Iceland. Personally I'm not that bothered about it whatever the decision.
Ok, cheers mate, had me curious, and bout the only important thing I could think of to mention..
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Ok, cheers mate, had me curious, and bout the only important thing I could think of to mention..
There was a statement by one of the leaders of a small pro-independence party (which I voted for in 2010 but didn't obtain any seats in parliament) in favour of a future Catalan military in case of independence.
From what I saw most people I know were against it.
As you know I love military stuff in general, specially aircraft, so from that perspective I suppose I rather have one than not, but I understand the argument that kind of money is probably better spent elsewhere.
We have as many enemies, likely future enemies or as much of a need for a military as Andorra or in other words none at all.
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